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<H1>[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories</H1>
<B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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<I>Mon Feb 28 23:02:30 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>Le lundi 28 février 2011 18:21:58, Michael Scherer a écrit :
><i> Le samedi 26 février 2011 à 01:00 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
</I>><i> > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 10:33:42, Michael Scherer a écrit :
</I>><i> > > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
</I>><i> > > > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit :
</I>><i> > > > > What need to be taken in account too is also the case
</I>><i> > > > > Internet => 5-7 apps.
</I>><i> > > > >
</I>><i> > > > > Having :
</I>><i> > > > > Internet => 5-7 submenus => 1 app entry
</I>><i> > > > > is IMHO clearly suboptimal.
</I>><i> > > > >
</I>><i> > > > > ( ie, 1 step more to get application , on a total of 3, that's a
</I>><i> > > > > lot ).
</I>><i> > > >
</I>><i> > > > Does it happen ? In a default Mandriva KDE installation I already
</I>><i> > > > have more than 10 internet applications.
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > I do not use kde, but that doesn't sound good.
</I>><i> > > What are the entries ? Are all of them really needed ?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > - akregator
</I>><i> > - kaddressbook
</I>><i> > - kmail
</I>><i> > - network center (mandriva)
</I>><i> > - kbluetooth
</I>><i> > - kget (download manager)
</I>><i> > - knetattach (= add a network
</I>><i> > - knode : newsgroups reader (unless I installed it manually, not sure)
</I>><i> > - konqueror
</I>><i> > - kontact
</I>><i> > - konversation
</I>><i> > - kopete
</I>><i> > - korganizer
</I>><i> > - kppp
</I>><i> > - krdc
</I>><i> > - krfb
</I>><i> > - ktorrent (unless I installed it manually)
</I>><i> > - firefox
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > And I agree that many of those will not be used by most people
</I>><i>
</I>><i> There is some duplicate :
</I>><i> firefox / konqueror
</I>><i> kontact / korganiser / kmail / kadressboo, that somehow all overlap ( IIRC
</I>><i> from my kde days ) - kppp / network center / knetattach -> manage network
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > > > I prefer 3 quick steps rather than 2 long steps.
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > This would requires some testing and measures to see which is faster,
</I>><i> > > which is more confusing. Fcrozat did some tests, but I think the report
</I>><i> > > were not published :/
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > > And KDE gives you the
</I>><i> > > > "recently used applications" on top of the menu, so the extra step is
</I>><i> > > > no big deal.
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > Shall I remind that there is more than KDE in the world ?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > No, because it suggests I forgot it, which is not the case :)
</I>><i> > But you mean there is no such functionality in GNOME and other commonly
</I>><i> > used environments ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I never seen this on windows, ( which is still the most common used
</I>><i> evnironment, even if my own usage date back to xp ), neither on mac os x
</I>><i> ( on 10.5 ).
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Well, for windows I think you just didn't see it :)
"Commonly used programs are automatically displayed in the left-hand menu"
<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start_menu#Evolution_of_the_Start_Menu">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start_menu#Evolution_of_the_Start_Menu</A>
I think I had that functionality already in windows 98 (but that could be a
false memory, I don't guarantee).
Samuel
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