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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Changing default media names</H1>
<B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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<PRE>Le dimanche 20 novembre 2011 19:43:55, nicolas vigier a écrit :
><i> Hello,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> The media names on Mageia 1 and Cauldron currently look like this, when
</I>><i> added with urpmi.addmedia --distrib :
</I>><i> Core Release
</I>><i> Core Release Debug
</I>><i> Core Updates
</I>><i> Core Updates Debug
</I>><i> Core Backports
</I>><i> Nonfree Release
</I>><i> Core 32bit Release
</I>><i> Core 32bit Updates
</I>><i> ...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I suggest we replace them on Cauldron and later versions with names
</I>><i> like this :
</I>><i>
</I>><i> cauldron/x86_64/core/release
</I>><i> cauldron/x86_64/debug/core/release
</I>><i> cauldron/x86_64/core/updates
</I>><i> cauldron/x86_64/debug/core/updates
</I>><i> cauldron/x86_64/core/backports
</I>><i> cauldron/x86_64/nonfree/release
</I>><i> cauldron/i586/core/release
</I>><i> cauldron/i586/core/updates
</I>><i> ...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I think it's better because :
</I>><i> - it doesn't have spaces, so doesn't need to be quoted in urpmi command
</I>><i> lines - doesn't have capitals, so easier to type right
</I>><i> - includes version of Mageia, so you can quickly see which version(s)
</I>><i> you're using
</I>><i> - match the paths on the mirrors, so I think it's more clear what the
</I>><i> media is and easier to remember
</I>><i>
</I>><i> What do you think ?
</I>
I'm not sure about it. I see the benefits, but to me there is a major drawback:
they are not user-friendly :
- current names are readable, new ones aren't, they're just technical
- current naming scheme doesn't bother you with arch information, except on 64
bits system and only for 32 bits media
- the order of items in current scheme is better : first you see whether it's
Core, Nonfree or Tainted, then if it's Release/Updates/Backports/Updates
Testing/Backports Testing, and then debug media have some more information.
Release and arch are important but many media share the same release and arch
on a given system, so the information should be more discreet.
This proposal looks good for CLI but not for GUI. I share the objectives, but
am not entirely convinced by the current proposal, unless it comes with
improvements on the UI side.
Some ideas :
- change the naming scheme but translate it into human readable names in UI
- Implement item 40 for mageia 2 specs : "really use media tags in the package
managers, CLI and GUI: testing, backport, update, etc. Currently, apart from a
hack for media which name contain “backport”, the nature of the media is not
used in urpmi and rpmdrake whereas it could be used to improve usability a
lot. Instead of talking about core-updates, core-updates_testing, etc., talk
about the root media (“core”, “non-free”, “tainted”) and let users choose
whether they want to use updates, backports, updates_testing,
backports_testing flavors of this root media." I haven't had the time to write
a complete spec for that, but if needed I could try to put it higher on my
TODO list.
Best regards
Samuel Verschelde
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