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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+ <I>Sun Nov 20 21:18:01 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 20 novembre 2011 19:43:55, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The media names on Mageia 1 and Cauldron currently look like this, when
+</I>&gt;<i> added with urpmi.addmedia --distrib :
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Release
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Release Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Updates
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Updates Debug
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Backports
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree Release
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Release
+</I>&gt;<i> Core 32bit Updates
+</I>&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest we replace them on Cauldron and later versions with names
+</I>&gt;<i> like this :
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+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/x86_64/core/release
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/x86_64/debug/core/release
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/x86_64/core/updates
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/x86_64/debug/core/updates
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/x86_64/core/backports
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/x86_64/nonfree/release
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/i586/core/release
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/i586/core/updates
+</I>&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it's better because :
+</I>&gt;<i> - it doesn't have spaces, so doesn't need to be quoted in urpmi command
+</I>&gt;<i> lines - doesn't have capitals, so easier to type right
+</I>&gt;<i> - includes version of Mageia, so you can quickly see which version(s)
+</I>&gt;<i> you're using
+</I>&gt;<i> - match the paths on the mirrors, so I think it's more clear what the
+</I>&gt;<i> media is and easier to remember
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>
+I'm not sure about it. I see the benefits, but to me there is a major drawback:
+they are not user-friendly :
+- current names are readable, new ones aren't, they're just technical
+- current naming scheme doesn't bother you with arch information, except on 64
+bits system and only for 32 bits media
+- the order of items in current scheme is better : first you see whether it's
+Core, Nonfree or Tainted, then if it's Release/Updates/Backports/Updates
+Testing/Backports Testing, and then debug media have some more information.
+Release and arch are important but many media share the same release and arch
+on a given system, so the information should be more discreet.
+
+This proposal looks good for CLI but not for GUI. I share the objectives, but
+am not entirely convinced by the current proposal, unless it comes with
+improvements on the UI side.
+
+Some ideas :
+- change the naming scheme but translate it into human readable names in UI
+- Implement item 40 for mageia 2 specs : &quot;really use media tags in the package
+managers, CLI and GUI: testing, backport, update, etc. Currently, apart from a
+hack for media which name contain &#8220;backport&#8221;, the nature of the media is not
+used in urpmi and rpmdrake whereas it could be used to improve usability a
+lot. Instead of talking about core-updates, core-updates_testing, etc., talk
+about the root media (&#8220;core&#8221;, &#8220;non-free&#8221;, &#8220;tainted&#8221;) and let users choose
+whether they want to use updates, backports, updates_testing,
+backports_testing flavors of this root media.&quot; I haven't had the time to write
+a complete spec for that, but if needed I could try to put it higher on my
+TODO list.
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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