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<H1>[Mageia-dev] cauldron core/release udev-173-1.mga2</H1>
<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<I>Fri Aug 26 00:47:42 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 25/08/11 20:29 did gyre and gimble:
><i> Le jeudi 25 août 2011 à 15:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit :
</I>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and D.Morgan at 25/08/11 15:22 did gyre and gimble:
</I>>>><i> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote:
</I>>>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Mageia Team at 25/08/11 09:56 did gyre and gimble:
</I>>>>>><i> Name : udev Relocations: (not relocatable)
</I>>>>>><i> Version : 173 Vendor: Mageia.Org
</I>>>>>><i> Release : 1.mga2 Build Date: Thu Aug 25 10:54:41 2011
</I>>>>>><i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund
</I>>>>>><i> Group : System/Configuration/Hardware Source RPM: (none)
</I>>>>>><i> Size : 745928 License: GPLv2
</I>>>>>><i> Signature : (none)
</I>>>>>><i> Packager : Mageia Team <<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>>
</I>>>>>><i> URL : <A HREF="ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug">ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug</A>
</I>>>>>><i> Summary : A userspace implementation of devfs
</I>>>>>><i> Description :
</I>>>>>><i> Udev is an implementation of devfs/devfsd in userspace using sysfs and
</I>>>>>><i> /sbin/hotplug. It requires a 2.6 kernel to run properly.
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> Like devfs, udev dynamically creates and removes device nodes from /dev/.
</I>>>>>><i> It responds to /sbin/hotplug device events.
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> misc <misc> 173-1.mga2:
</I>>>>>><i> + Revision: 135235
</I>>>>>><i> - fix description ( rpmlint error )
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> + tv <tv>
</I>>>>>><i> - fix file list
</I>>>>>><i> - new release
</I>>>>>><i> - rediff patch 0
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> So, with the new udev, it seems that udev-acl is removed. This is a step
</I>>>>><i> towards systemd which now handles all the ACL application.
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Do we really want this new udev now? If so, then we really need to step
</I>>>>><i> up the systemd integration. Things are mostly working fine for me
</I>>>>><i> without udev-acls, but even with the systemd package as presently
</I>>>>><i> available, I have to edit my /etc/pamd.d/system-auth file to include the
</I>>>>><i> pam_systemd stuff - see my earlier message to this list about that.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> what about doing like fedora ?
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> %post
</I>>>><i> # Make sure pam_systemd is enabled
</I>>>><i> if ! /bin/grep -q pam_systemd /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac ; then
</I>>>><i> /usr/sbin/authconfig --update --nostart >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> # Try harder
</I>>>><i> /bin/grep -q pam_systemd /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac ||
</I>>>><i> /usr/sbin/authconfig --updateall --nostart >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
</I>>>><i> fi
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I think it may be easier to write a script around augeas than import
</I>><i> authconfig, as I suspect that it would do much more change.
</I>
I'm not familiar with augeas... but this should be possible. Do the
tools we already have for e.g. configuring LDAP logins have routines for
editing the system-auth file perhaps?
>><i> Yup that's what I asked in my last email about this several weeks ago.
</I>>><i> I've pinged it up to get more discussion about the topic.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> In fact, it was not clear that you asked a question in the mail :/
</I>
Hmm, I thought: "The question is, how should we handle this?" was a
pretty obvious question... I even used the word "question" :p :D
><i> We said that we would support booting without systemd-, so to me, this
</I>><i> should be taken in account.
</I>
Yeah but I think using the "optional" word in pam config means that it's
quite safe even if systemd is not running, so I don't think this is an
issue.
That's why I suggested even just patching pam directly... but modifying
the file should also be possible as that what ldap auth configuration
does anyway, so it's no great shakes.
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