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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 25/08/11 20:29 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 25 ao&#251;t 2011 &#224; 15:33 +0100, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and D.Morgan at 25/08/11 15:22 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Mageia Team at 25/08/11 09:56 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name : udev Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 173 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga2 Build Date: Thu Aug 25 10:54:41 2011
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Group : System/Configuration/Hardware Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Size : 745928 License: GPLv2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Packager : Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug">ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Summary : A userspace implementation of devfs
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Udev is an implementation of devfs/devfsd in userspace using sysfs and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /sbin/hotplug. It requires a 2.6 kernel to run properly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Like devfs, udev dynamically creates and removes device nodes from /dev/.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It responds to /sbin/hotplug device events.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> misc &lt;misc&gt; 173-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 135235
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - fix description ( rpmlint error )
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + tv &lt;tv&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - fix file list
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - new release
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - rediff patch 0
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, with the new udev, it seems that udev-acl is removed. This is a step
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> towards systemd which now handles all the ACL application.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do we really want this new udev now? If so, then we really need to step
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> up the systemd integration. Things are mostly working fine for me
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> without udev-acls, but even with the systemd package as presently
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> available, I have to edit my /etc/pamd.d/system-auth file to include the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> pam_systemd stuff - see my earlier message to this list about that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> what about doing like fedora ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %post
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # Make sure pam_systemd is enabled
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if ! /bin/grep -q pam_systemd /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac ; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/sbin/authconfig --update --nostart &gt;/dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1 || :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # Try harder
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /bin/grep -q pam_systemd /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac ||
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/sbin/authconfig --updateall --nostart &gt;/dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1 || :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> fi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it may be easier to write a script around augeas than import
+</I>&gt;<i> authconfig, as I suspect that it would do much more change.
+</I>
+I'm not familiar with augeas... but this should be possible. Do the
+tools we already have for e.g. configuring LDAP logins have routines for
+editing the system-auth file perhaps?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Yup that's what I asked in my last email about this several weeks ago.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've pinged it up to get more discussion about the topic.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact, it was not clear that you asked a question in the mail :/
+</I>
+Hmm, I thought: &quot;The question is, how should we handle this?&quot; was a
+pretty obvious question... I even used the word &quot;question&quot; :p :D
+
+&gt;<i> We said that we would support booting without systemd-, so to me, this
+</I>&gt;<i> should be taken in account.
+</I>
+Yeah but I think using the &quot;optional&quot; word in pam config means that it's
+quite safe even if systemd is not running, so I don't think this is an
+issue.
+
+That's why I suggested even just patching pam directly... but modifying
+the file should also be possible as that what ldap auth configuration
+does anyway, so it's no great shakes.
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
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