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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.</H1>
<B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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<I>Tue Aug 23 19:49:36 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Op dinsdag 23 augustus 2011 10:47:18 schreef Colin Guthrie:
><i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 22/08/11 22:39 did gyre and gimble:
</I>><i> > imho, the tools that are now available don't really work well together,
</I>><i> > ie: if you use multiple of those tools, likely they don't show correct
</I>><i> > status, etc...
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</I>><i> So combining home-grown solutions with those integrated into the DEs
</I>><i> (both GNOME and KDE are integrating with NM in a more complete way these
</I>><i> days) is a way to solve this problem? I don't think so personally. I
</I>><i> think we should very much embrace what the common consensus on other
</I>><i> distros is and stop living in a little bubble. I appreciate the quality
</I>><i> of the tools developed in the past but without someone really pushing
</I>><i> them they are just going to stagnate. It's a real shame as these tools
</I>><i> were best of bread - really easy to use and looked good, but this has
</I>><i> changed now. NM is much nicer to use these days and has been properly
</I>><i> integrated into the DEs.
</I>
well, imho, the last time i tried NM it didn't work and net_applet did.
><i> > personally, i've used net_applet always and i would like to keep this.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Sure, if it's patched to integrate into GNOME shell as nicely as NM then
</I>><i> I'd say it's an option. If it provides the same DBus interfaces that NM
</I>><i> does (or will) support such that applications can tell what type of
</I>><i> connection you are on (i.e. to enable features such as not downloading
</I>><i> package updates on your expensive, metered 3G connection) then it's
</I>><i> certainly possible to continue to support an alternative to NM. Who is
</I>><i> actually going to do that work tho'? Considering the bug about breaking
</I>><i> your wifi configuration (using WEP rather than the configured WPA2) has
</I>><i> not been fixed[1] since before mga1 was out, I'm not confident that
</I>><i> anyone is even looking into the actual bugs here let alone adding new
</I>><i> features. I feel we have to be some what practical about resources here
</I>><i> and if we are going to work on features do it in a way that benefits the
</I>><i> wider community - i.e. by contributing to NM, not just playing catch up.
</I>
i don't care about gnome shell or gnome 3 or whichever. for me net_applet is
the best one yet and i don't have this WPA2 bug that you seem to speak of.
also, i need the openvpn functionalities of the net_applet. as long as NM
doesn't provide everything and is welltested, i'm not sure it should replace
something that's been very long working like the net_applet.
allthough i'm sure net_applet could be improved, sure.
personally i'd like an applet that shows up multiple times for each connection
one with a different icon, so it's nicely visible and you can shut down
whichever you want.
><i> Col
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 1. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263</A> I had to manually edit
</I>><i> wpa_supplicant.conf several times when at the Desktop Summit and WLAN
</I>><i> hopping after using the GUI - it's not exactly a shining example of good
</I>><i> integration.
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yes, but i'm using several different WPA2 connections, and i configured them
once and now if i'm at that particular location, it works...
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