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I don't think so personally. I +</I>><i> think we should very much embrace what the common consensus on other +</I>><i> distros is and stop living in a little bubble. I appreciate the quality +</I>><i> of the tools developed in the past but without someone really pushing +</I>><i> them they are just going to stagnate. It's a real shame as these tools +</I>><i> were best of bread - really easy to use and looked good, but this has +</I>><i> changed now. NM is much nicer to use these days and has been properly +</I>><i> integrated into the DEs. +</I> +well, imho, the last time i tried NM it didn't work and net_applet did. + +><i> > personally, i've used net_applet always and i would like to keep this. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sure, if it's patched to integrate into GNOME shell as nicely as NM then +</I>><i> I'd say it's an option. If it provides the same DBus interfaces that NM +</I>><i> does (or will) support such that applications can tell what type of +</I>><i> connection you are on (i.e. to enable features such as not downloading +</I>><i> package updates on your expensive, metered 3G connection) then it's +</I>><i> certainly possible to continue to support an alternative to NM. Who is +</I>><i> actually going to do that work tho'? Considering the bug about breaking +</I>><i> your wifi configuration (using WEP rather than the configured WPA2) has +</I>><i> not been fixed[1] since before mga1 was out, I'm not confident that +</I>><i> anyone is even looking into the actual bugs here let alone adding new +</I>><i> features. I feel we have to be some what practical about resources here +</I>><i> and if we are going to work on features do it in a way that benefits the +</I>><i> wider community - i.e. by contributing to NM, not just playing catch up. +</I> +i don't care about gnome shell or gnome 3 or whichever. for me net_applet is +the best one yet and i don't have this WPA2 bug that you seem to speak of. + +also, i need the openvpn functionalities of the net_applet. as long as NM +doesn't provide everything and is welltested, i'm not sure it should replace +something that's been very long working like the net_applet. + +allthough i'm sure net_applet could be improved, sure. + +personally i'd like an applet that shows up multiple times for each connection +one with a different icon, so it's nicely visible and you can shut down +whichever you want. + +><i> Col +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263</A> I had to manually edit +</I>><i> wpa_supplicant.conf several times when at the Desktop Summit and WLAN +</I>><i> hopping after using the GUI - it's not exactly a shining example of good +</I>><i> integration. +</I> +yes, but i'm using several different WPA2 connections, and i configured them +once and now if i'm at that particular location, it works... +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007442.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007432.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7471">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7471">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7471">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7471">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |