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<B>Michael Scherer</B>
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<PRE>Le mardi 23 août 2011 à 16:23 +0200, grenoya a écrit :
><i> Le 23/08/11 15:44, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
</I>><i> > On 21 August 2011 15:44, Colin Guthrie<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote:
</I>><i> >> I do have to wonder why those macros are used... it seems quite trivial
</I>><i> >> to use the actual commands directly and that ultimately increases
</I>><i> >> portability (which maybe isn't a major concern, but all the same)
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> What are the general thoughts on this?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > As a 12+ years maintainer of mdv/mdv/mga, I think most spec don't use those.
</I>><i> > They don't bring anything anyway.
</I>><i> > If only, we could standardize on the most usefull macros between distro at first
</I>><i> > (eg %make vs make %{?_smp_mflags})
</I>><i>
</I>><i> '%foo' commands are wrappers.
</I>><i> Like '%make' is a wrapper for "make -j4" (parralel compilation on 4 nodes)
</I>><i> It can be quicker to build with the command, but in some cases (I met
</I>><i> some) it brakes the build.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> From my point of view (I am not packager since long) commands are great
</I>><i> tools, it eases our work a lot :)
</I>><i> So I agree with Tv: we should use them every time it is possible. At
</I>><i> least the most commons.
</I>
the problem is that we are not sure when there is a wrapper, and when
there is one and it doesn't nothing more, they obscure the fact that rpm
is just a shell script + metadata. I think for some people, this look
like magic :)
So when the macro do something more, yes we need to use it.
If not, and if we want to follow others distribution, we should take a
look at their policy
I found the one of Fedora on
<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Macros">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Macros</A> , and
basically, they say "use rm rather than %{_rm}".
If someone can find the one of Suse or others, that would help use to
see if a consensus emerge
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Michael Scherer
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