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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.</H1>
<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<I>Tue Aug 23 15:42:21 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 23/08/11 14:37 did gyre and gimble:
><i> Thierry Vignaud skrev 23.8.2011 16:28:
</I>>><i> On 23 August 2011 13:16, Guillaume Rousse<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>>
</I>>><i> wrote:
</I>>>>><i> The things that these individual tools implement are a few relatively
</I>>>>><i> simply commands to the kernel and it doesn't make sense to do all this
</I>>>>><i> in shell. It makes much more sense to do all these jobs in efficient
</I>>>>><i> code that runs *quickly* without forking hundreds of times. The code is
</I>>>>><i> still perfectly visible and easily hackable, but now things are much
</I>>>>><i> more robust and efficient.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Booting faster makes sense on desktops, not on servers. My general
</I>>>><i> impression in this new trend (systemd, networkmanager, etc...) is the
</I>>>><i> need
</I>>>><i> to compete with proprietary system (macos, windows) on end-user
</I>>>><i> segment, at
</I>>>><i> the cost of genericity and simplicity.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Indeed.
</I>>><i> What's more gaining 20s on a server when the IBM uefi/firmware take
</I>>><i> *minutes* to
</I>>><i> setup the machine is worthless.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Heh,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I remember a SGI guy on LKML a while back complaining that it took
</I>><i> ~2 hours to boot one of their _big_ servers (4096 cpus, a few TB RAM).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> After a patch that fixed the "bug", it brought the boot time down to 30
</I>><i> minutes and he was happy again :)
</I>
Wowsers. I bet systemd could get that down to like 29 minutes and 30
seconds :p
Col
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