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It makes much more sense to do all these jobs in efficient +</I>>>>><i> code that runs *quickly* without forking hundreds of times. The code is +</I>>>>><i> still perfectly visible and easily hackable, but now things are much +</I>>>>><i> more robust and efficient. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Booting faster makes sense on desktops, not on servers. My general +</I>>>><i> impression in this new trend (systemd, networkmanager, etc...) is the +</I>>>><i> need +</I>>>><i> to compete with proprietary system (macos, windows) on end-user +</I>>>><i> segment, at +</I>>>><i> the cost of genericity and simplicity. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Indeed. +</I>>><i> What's more gaining 20s on a server when the IBM uefi/firmware take +</I>>><i> *minutes* to +</I>>><i> setup the machine is worthless. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Heh, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I remember a SGI guy on LKML a while back complaining that it took +</I>><i> ~2 hours to boot one of their _big_ servers (4096 cpus, a few TB RAM). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> After a patch that fixed the "bug", it brought the boot time down to 30 +</I>><i> minutes and he was happy again :) +</I> + +Wowsers. I bet systemd could get that down to like 29 minutes and 30 +seconds :p + +Col + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007459.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007466.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7458">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7458">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7458">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7458">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |