1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
|
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.
</TITLE>
<LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
<LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Drakxnet%2C%0A%20drakroam%20and%20Draknetcenter%20%3A%20let%27s%20fix%20it%20or%20throw%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3C20110801143511.08f8ee44%40sigrid.netbook.mageia%3E">
<META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
<META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007150.html">
<LINK REL="Next" HREF="007154.html">
</HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
<H1>[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.</H1>
<B>Sigrid Carrera</B>
<A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Drakxnet%2C%0A%20drakroam%20and%20Draknetcenter%20%3A%20let%27s%20fix%20it%20or%20throw%20it.&In-Reply-To=%3C20110801143511.08f8ee44%40sigrid.netbook.mageia%3E"
TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.">sigrid.carrera at googlemail.com
</A><BR>
<I>Mon Aug 1 14:35:11 CEST 2011</I>
<P><UL>
<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007150.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.
</A></li>
<LI>Next message: <A HREF="007154.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.
</A></li>
<LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
<a href="date.html#7153">[ date ]</a>
<a href="thread.html#7153">[ thread ]</a>
<a href="subject.html#7153">[ subject ]</a>
<a href="author.html#7153">[ author ]</a>
</LI>
</UL>
<HR>
<!--beginarticle-->
<PRE>Hi Wolfgang, *,
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:10:08 +0200
Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote:
><i> 2011/8/1 Thomas Lottmann <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">skipercooker at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>><i> > Hello,
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > I should have written this mail much sooner, but finally, I am totally,
</I>><i> > completely and starting to be hatefully fed up of these tools.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > The Mandriva/Mageia tools that manage the network on computers, especially
</I>><i> > the wireless networks are completely dysfunctional. While the Network Center
</I>><i> > does not seem to even communicate with the system tools to know what is
</I>><i> > happening during the link setup, it does not auto-refresh network lists
</I>><i> > properly.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Since 2010.1 now even mixes up itself in it's own network scripts (the ones
</I>><i> > stored in wireless.d). This maxes it wrongly detect numerous wireless points
</I>><i> > (he seen WPA2 Enterperise hotspots as opened or WEP, or more nerving,
</I>><i> > becomes incapable or storing the right authentication information). A tool
</I>><i> > that breaks itself is a complete shame!
</I>
I agree, I had this happening to me as well. I'm running Mageia 1, the stable distribution, not a Cauldron installation.
I have already entered a bug report about my problem (see <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263</A>) and it is annoying.
without any reason (at least, not one, that I can see) my wireless connection disconnects and every try to reconnect ends in failure. And if I check then the configuration, the connection is set to either OPEN or WEP instead of WPA2.
><i> >
</I>><i> > The GUI is also appalling. Despite it's numerous possibilities, it is a mess
</I>><i> > and 60% of it cannot be used by something else than the system or a network
</I>><i> > expert.
</I>
I don't have a specific opinion about the GUI. When it works, it's fine. I am wondering sometimes, what all those options are for, but since now, I've always managed to get a working connection, so this is not a mayor issue for me.
><i> >
</I>><i> > The code itself is undocumented and it extremely difficult to read.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > These tools are getting really bad and not working properly anyway since a
</I>><i> > long time now. So either we fix it and improve it (recoding?), either we
</I>><i> > definitely switch to Network Manager. I am ready to participate if necessary
</I>><i> > (despite my lack of competence), but I do not want to see these tools 'as
</I>><i> > is' on my computer anymore, and no longer want to see these issues that down
</I>><i> > Mageia's reputation in comparison to other popular projects here such as
</I>><i> > Arch, Fedora or Ubuntu, who do have proper tools delivered by default.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > This is not the first time I complain about this tool. We should not leave
</I>><i> > this unchanged. It is far too annoying and pushing to so much loss of time.
</I>
I can't say anything about the code, I haven't looked at it. (Not that I understand much about coding). ;)
><i>
</I>><i> While I cannot confirm the problems you are talking about in former
</I>><i> Mandriva (2010.x) nor in Mageia 1, I do have the problems in Mageia
</I>><i> Cauldron, mostly caused by (guess what?) - network-manager! I reported
</I>><i> about this in the forum
</I>><i> (<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=869">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=869</A>).
</I>><i> Just current case: after an update run in Cauldron my wifi does not
</I>><i> connect, then connects and disconnects again after a few seconds.
</I>><i> After trying several measurements like removing the setup-script,
</I>><i> removing the connection in MCC, etc., all without result, I
</I>><i> de-installed network-manager and configured wifi again by the draktool
</I>><i> without NM - it works now.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> As you see, my "mileage" varies from yours. :)
</I>
Yes, indeed, the experiences vary. But this doesn't mean, that one opinion or experience can be dismissed because you have some different experiences. (Wobo, this is not meant as a comment to you personally, it's more a general comment!)
Sigrid
</PRE>
<!--endarticle-->
<HR>
<P><UL>
<!--threads-->
<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007150.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.
</A></li>
<LI>Next message: <A HREF="007154.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.
</A></li>
<LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
<a href="date.html#7153">[ date ]</a>
<a href="thread.html#7153">[ thread ]</a>
<a href="subject.html#7153">[ subject ]</a>
<a href="author.html#7153">[ author ]</a>
</LI>
</UL>
<hr>
<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
mailing list</a><br>
</body></html>
|
