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While the Network Center +</I>><i> > does not seem to even communicate with the system tools to know what is +</I>><i> > happening during the link setup, it does not auto-refresh network lists +</I>><i> > properly. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Since 2010.1 now even mixes up itself in it's own network scripts (the ones +</I>><i> > stored in wireless.d). This maxes it wrongly detect numerous wireless points +</I>><i> > (he seen WPA2 Enterperise hotspots as opened or WEP, or more nerving, +</I>><i> > becomes incapable or storing the right authentication information). A tool +</I>><i> > that breaks itself is a complete shame! +</I> +I agree, I had this happening to me as well. I'm running Mageia 1, the stable distribution, not a Cauldron installation. + +I have already entered a bug report about my problem (see <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263</A>) and it is annoying. +without any reason (at least, not one, that I can see) my wireless connection disconnects and every try to reconnect ends in failure. And if I check then the configuration, the connection is set to either OPEN or WEP instead of WPA2. + +><i> > +</I>><i> > The GUI is also appalling. Despite it's numerous possibilities, it is a mess +</I>><i> > and 60% of it cannot be used by something else than the system or a network +</I>><i> > expert. +</I> +I don't have a specific opinion about the GUI. When it works, it's fine. I am wondering sometimes, what all those options are for, but since now, I've always managed to get a working connection, so this is not a mayor issue for me. + +><i> > +</I>><i> > The code itself is undocumented and it extremely difficult to read. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > These tools are getting really bad and not working properly anyway since a +</I>><i> > long time now. So either we fix it and improve it (recoding?), either we +</I>><i> > definitely switch to Network Manager. I am ready to participate if necessary +</I>><i> > (despite my lack of competence), but I do not want to see these tools 'as +</I>><i> > is' on my computer anymore, and no longer want to see these issues that down +</I>><i> > Mageia's reputation in comparison to other popular projects here such as +</I>><i> > Arch, Fedora or Ubuntu, who do have proper tools delivered by default. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > This is not the first time I complain about this tool. We should not leave +</I>><i> > this unchanged. It is far too annoying and pushing to so much loss of time. +</I> +I can't say anything about the code, I haven't looked at it. (Not that I understand much about coding). ;) + +><i> +</I>><i> While I cannot confirm the problems you are talking about in former +</I>><i> Mandriva (2010.x) nor in Mageia 1, I do have the problems in Mageia +</I>><i> Cauldron, mostly caused by (guess what?) - network-manager! I reported +</I>><i> about this in the forum +</I>><i> (<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=869">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=869</A>). +</I>><i> Just current case: after an update run in Cauldron my wifi does not +</I>><i> connect, then connects and disconnects again after a few seconds. +</I>><i> After trying several measurements like removing the setup-script, +</I>><i> removing the connection in MCC, etc., all without result, I +</I>><i> de-installed network-manager and configured wifi again by the draktool +</I>><i> without NM - it works now. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As you see, my "mileage" varies from yours. :) +</I> +Yes, indeed, the experiences vary. But this doesn't mean, that one opinion or experience can be dismissed because you have some different experiences. (Wobo, this is not meant as a comment to you personally, it's more a general comment!) + +Sigrid +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007150.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007154.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7153">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7153">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7153">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7153">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |