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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two</H1>
    <B>Ahmad Samir</B> 
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    <I>Sat Nov 27 10:41:28 CET 2010</I>
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<PRE>On 27 November 2010 11:13, Michael scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
&gt;<i> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 09:00:50AM +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 27 November 2010 08:27, Andrey Borzenkov &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">arvidjaar at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The idea of this layout with some of the separate sections (codecs,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; firmware, games, non-free, debug_*) gives a mirror maintainer in a country
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (or company) the option to exclude the parts they legally (or by company
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; policy) can not mirror.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I wonder how &quot;urpmi.addmedia --distrib
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="ftp://server/with/omitted/sections">ftp://server/with/omitted/sections</A>&quot; should be interpreted then.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Also mirror list should be indicating which sections are present; is
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; it supported right now?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IMHO, the mirrorlist in its current status should be dropped
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> altogether... it's only good if the user has good mirrors near where
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> he lives, otherwise it just fails miserably. The whole point of using
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a mirrorlist was that &quot;urpmi will switch to another mirror if the
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> currently used one fails / can't be reached&quot;, that switch doesn't
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> happen, (&quot;md5sum mismatch&quot; rings a bell?).
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> In fact, md5 mismatch happen when the md5sum come from one mirror, and the hdlist
</I>&gt;<i> from another one. This part of the urpmi code is too complex, and I didn't
</I>&gt;<i> understood exactly the way it should work ( I mean, we could
</I>&gt;<i> have a method &quot;download&quot; that does the right thing, switch to another mirror, etc, but
</I>&gt;<i> it seems much more complex and therefor hard to fix ).
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> At least with the specific media mirrors the user can, more easily,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> guess that he can use add another mirror, with mirrorlist most new
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> users are left clueless.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> IMHO, that's a bug that must be fixed. I have already attempted, but
</I>&gt;<i> without any luck. And shall I also remind that this was asked by users ( ie
</I>&gt;<i> most non new users have no trouble with a single mirror ).
</I>&gt;<i> So if we remove, some users will ask us again to have it...
</I>&gt;<i> --
</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
The mirrorlist is a good method, _if/when_ it works. As it stands it
doesn't work except if the user has a good mirror near him that urpmi
will select; otherwise the user has to select a mirror manually, not
so nice for new users as they just click &quot;Add&quot; in drakrpm-edit-media.

A search in bugzilla and the mdv forum will reveal that a lot of users
got hit by that issue and are still getting hit by it....

-- 
Ahmad Samir
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