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The whole point of using +</I>>><i> a mirrorlist was that "urpmi will switch to another mirror if the +</I>>><i> currently used one fails / can't be reached", that switch doesn't +</I>>><i> happen, ("md5sum mismatch" rings a bell?). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In fact, md5 mismatch happen when the md5sum come from one mirror, and the hdlist +</I>><i> from another one. This part of the urpmi code is too complex, and I didn't +</I>><i> understood exactly the way it should work ( I mean, we could +</I>><i> have a method "download" that does the right thing, switch to another mirror, etc, but +</I>><i> it seems much more complex and therefor hard to fix ). +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> At least with the specific media mirrors the user can, more easily, +</I>>><i> guess that he can use add another mirror, with mirrorlist most new +</I>>><i> users are left clueless. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO, that's a bug that must be fixed. I have already attempted, but +</I>><i> without any luck. And shall I also remind that this was asked by users ( ie +</I>><i> most non new users have no trouble with a single mirror ). +</I>><i> So if we remove, some users will ask us again to have it... +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Michael Scherer +</I>><i> +</I> +The mirrorlist is a good method, _if/when_ it works. As it stands it +doesn't work except if the user has a good mirror near him that urpmi +will select; otherwise the user has to select a mirror manually, not +so nice for new users as they just click "Add" in drakrpm-edit-media. + +A search in bugzilla and the mdv forum will reveal that a lot of users +got hit by that issue and are still getting hit by it.... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001454.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001456.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1455">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1455">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1455">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1455">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |