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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions,	firmware etc</H1>
    <B>Luca Berra</B> 
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    <I>Tue Oct 12 22:04:38 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 06:02:38PM +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote:
&gt;<i>== Do we want a separated core repository?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>No separated core: Fedora, Debian, Opensuse
</I>&gt;<i>Separated core: Mandriva (main), Ubuntu (main), Arch (Core)
</I>
i think so, main+contrib is about 20G and some stuff is not really
maintained.
&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>== What will be officially supported?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> - And what does that mean?
</I>being a non profit, everything that shall be officially supported must
have a sponsor. orphans are not supportable.
&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>== How are the sections named? :)
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>I think I'm in favor of renaming 'contrib' to 'extra'.
</I>sounds nice to me

&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>== Where do redistributable firmware go (Radeon graphics, Intel WLAN, TG3 
</I>&gt;<i>ethernet, etc)?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>To main repository: Arch, Fedora, Opensuse, Ubuntu
</I>&gt;<i>To the non-free repository: Debian
</I>&gt;<i>Case-by-case arbitrary decision: Mandriva
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>If we want to separate non-free firmware &#224; la Debian, I guess one option would 
</I>&gt;<i>be a separate firmware repository... or we could make free-only installation 
</I>&gt;<i>an expert option. Certainly we want tg3 ethernet and radeon to work on a 
</I>&gt;<i>standard installation, and for this we really need the firmware.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>I'd probably prefer to put them in main (as all non-Debian ones) but do some 
</I>&gt;<i>metapackage magic (or similar) to allow blacklisting them easily for those who 
</I>&gt;<i>want to.
</I>I'm in favor of some kind of separation, if it is by creating a firmware
repo or some packaging magik it is merely a technical question.

&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>== Where do firmware without license go (DVB, V4L, etc)?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>To unsupported non-free repository: Ubuntu (multiverse) [1],
</I>&gt;<i>To unsupported repository without binary packages: Arch (AUR)
</I>&gt;<i>Nowhere: Debian, Fedora, Opensuse, Mandriva
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>I guess for this one I'd prefer a helper draktool to handle/download these 
</I>&gt;<i>instead of shipping them ourselves.
</I>this sounds a nice idea, or do something like the plf flash-player
package

&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>== What about patents?
</I>
I agree with Olivier on this, mageia as an association should protect
itself from being sued in France, apart from that we should be actively
fighting patents ;)

&gt;<i>== If we choose a separate core repository, should we do something regarding
</I>&gt;<i>   OOo and java?
</I>&gt;<i>(there are a million java packages with tight interdependencies, and due to 
</I>&gt;<i>OOo requiring some of those, we need to ship the whole web in main)
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>== Do we allow P2P file transfer software?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>Yes: Arch, Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu
</I>&gt;<i>No, except torrents: Mandriva
</I>&gt;<i>Unknown, at least torrents allowed: Opensuse
</I>if the software is free, yes
Ptp is not illegal anywere, transferring copyrighted materal without
authorization usually is.

&gt;<i>== And gaming emulators?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>again, if the software is free, yes

&gt;<i>== And DVDCSS, etc?
</I>&gt;<i>Allowed: Arch
</I>&gt;<i>Not allowed: Debian, Fedora, Mandriva, Opensuse, Ubuntu
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>This should probably be 'no'.
</I>I'd say yes, in europe it should fall under the interoperability case.


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Luca Berra -- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bluca at vodka.it</A>
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