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Certainly we want tg3 ethernet and radeon to work on a +</I>><i>standard installation, and for this we really need the firmware. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>I'd probably prefer to put them in main (as all non-Debian ones) but do some +</I>><i>metapackage magic (or similar) to allow blacklisting them easily for those who +</I>><i>want to. +</I>I'm in favor of some kind of separation, if it is by creating a firmware +repo or some packaging magik it is merely a technical question. + +><i> +</I>><i>== Where do firmware without license go (DVB, V4L, etc)? +</I>><i> +</I>><i>To unsupported non-free repository: Ubuntu (multiverse) [1], +</I>><i>To unsupported repository without binary packages: Arch (AUR) +</I>><i>Nowhere: Debian, Fedora, Opensuse, Mandriva +</I>><i> +</I>><i>I guess for this one I'd prefer a helper draktool to handle/download these +</I>><i>instead of shipping them ourselves. +</I>this sounds a nice idea, or do something like the plf flash-player +package + +><i> +</I>><i>== What about patents? +</I> +I agree with Olivier on this, mageia as an association should protect +itself from being sued in France, apart from that we should be actively +fighting patents ;) + +><i>== If we choose a separate core repository, should we do something regarding +</I>><i> OOo and java? +</I>><i>(there are a million java packages with tight interdependencies, and due to +</I>><i>OOo requiring some of those, we need to ship the whole web in main) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i>== Do we allow P2P file transfer software? +</I>><i> +</I>><i>Yes: Arch, Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu +</I>><i>No, except torrents: Mandriva +</I>><i>Unknown, at least torrents allowed: Opensuse +</I>if the software is free, yes +Ptp is not illegal anywere, transferring copyrighted materal without +authorization usually is. + +><i>== And gaming emulators? +</I>><i> +</I>again, if the software is free, yes + +><i>== And DVDCSS, etc? +</I>><i>Allowed: Arch +</I>><i>Not allowed: Debian, Fedora, Mandriva, Opensuse, Ubuntu +</I>><i> +</I>><i>This should probably be 'no'. +</I>I'd say yes, in europe it should fall under the interoperability case. + + +-- +Luca Berra -- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bluca at vodka.it</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001101.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1110">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1110">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1110">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1110">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |