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<H1>[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1>
<B>Mihai Dobrescu</B>
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<I>Sat Oct 2 13:28:54 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Sinner from the Prairy <
<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>> wrote:
><i> Fabrice Facorat wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > 2010/10/1 Romain d'Alverny
</I>><i> > <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>><i> (...)
</I>><i> >> Both (substance, appearance) are crucial. If you only consider one
</I>><i> >> without balancing, making it consistent with the other, you're not
</I>><i> >> going down the right path. The interface, the whole experience with it
</I>><i> >> is the product.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > sure, but appearance is the key point.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Archos is a good example of what we should not do ...
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > I'm still amazed by the technicals limits of the iPhone, and how
</I>><i> > people can still want to buy them ... same for iPod ...
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > iPod : no mp3, no FM radio, no USB mass storage support
</I>><i> > iPhone : no standard visio, no ability to create without iTunes or
</I>><i> > third party tools photo albums, less capable facebook integration, no
</I>><i> > FM radio, no flash, and so on ...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> iProducts don't have all the bullet points, all the technical specs that an
</I>><i> UberGeek would like.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the
</I>><i> ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of
</I>><i> having 100% of specs and getting them to be just 50% workable, regular
</I>><i> people (95% of the population) like their products.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Apple's approach mimics the Unix philosophy (every small tool covers a task
</I>><i> extremely well, and integrates with the rest of the Unix system): every
</I>><i> single technical bullet point included does a task extremely well with the
</I>><i> rest of the tools and look'n'feel.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome.
</I>><i> draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> IMHO, Mageia should improve on Mandriva, not try to get just "bullet
</I>><i> points"
</I>><i> on what our distro does.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Let's pick our battles, go the Unix way, make sure what Mageia does, it
</I>><i> does
</I>><i> very well. And as Linux is Linux is Linux is Linux, it will do everything
</I>><i> else as well (and the kitchen sink).
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Salut,
</I>><i> Sinner
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>IMHO, a home user would have one major DE, KDE or Gnome or other. I think it
is unlikely to change it (maybe once in 10 years). The key in appearance is
to have a nice aspect in each DE rather be the same look in Gnome or KDE or
other. I guess that each environment will fit some user's taste in its
native look.
The Drake tools must be cross DE and consistent.
Mac OS is an unix derivative. I love their look and ergonomy. They have a
serious team of ergonomists and designers. This is what a Linux distro needs
to be successful. i.e. Mageia. The IMHO, Apple products are too expensive, a
regular PC at the same performance and of a acceptable quality offers the
same for a half of the price. And you could renew it faster for the same
money. Their apps are brilliant from usability point of view and very good
looking. They focus on a very limited hardware in variety. This is their
advantage. Their hardware is also the best in quality (this is why they cost
so much also). I prefer open source though.
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