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If you only consider one +</I>><i> >> without balancing, making it consistent with the other, you're not +</I>><i> >> going down the right path. The interface, the whole experience with it +</I>><i> >> is the product. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > sure, but appearance is the key point. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Archos is a good example of what we should not do ... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I'm still amazed by the technicals limits of the iPhone, and how +</I>><i> > people can still want to buy them ... same for iPod ... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > iPod : no mp3, no FM radio, no USB mass storage support +</I>><i> > iPhone : no standard visio, no ability to create without iTunes or +</I>><i> > third party tools photo albums, less capable facebook integration, no +</I>><i> > FM radio, no flash, and so on ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> iProducts don't have all the bullet points, all the technical specs that an +</I>><i> UberGeek would like. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the +</I>><i> ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of +</I>><i> having 100% of specs and getting them to be just 50% workable, regular +</I>><i> people (95% of the population) like their products. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Apple's approach mimics the Unix philosophy (every small tool covers a task +</I>><i> extremely well, and integrates with the rest of the Unix system): every +</I>><i> single technical bullet point included does a task extremely well with the +</I>><i> rest of the tools and look'n'feel. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome. +</I>><i> draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO, Mageia should improve on Mandriva, not try to get just "bullet +</I>><i> points" +</I>><i> on what our distro does. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Let's pick our battles, go the Unix way, make sure what Mageia does, it +</I>><i> does +</I>><i> very well. And as Linux is Linux is Linux is Linux, it will do everything +</I>><i> else as well (and the kitchen sink). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Salut, +</I>><i> Sinner +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>IMHO, a home user would have one major DE, KDE or Gnome or other. I think it +is unlikely to change it (maybe once in 10 years). The key in appearance is +to have a nice aspect in each DE rather be the same look in Gnome or KDE or +other. I guess that each environment will fit some user's taste in its +native look. +The Drake tools must be cross DE and consistent. +Mac OS is an unix derivative. I love their look and ergonomy. They have a +serious team of ergonomists and designers. This is what a Linux distro needs +to be successful. i.e. Mageia. The IMHO, Apple products are too expensive, a +regular PC at the same performance and of a acceptable quality offers the +same for a half of the price. And you could renew it faster for the same +money. Their apps are brilliant from usability point of view and very good +looking. They focus on a very limited hardware in variety. This is their +advantage. Their hardware is also the best in quality (this is why they cost +so much also). 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