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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1>
    <B>Graham Lauder</B> 
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<PRE>On Friday 24 Sep 2010 12:38:41 Michael Scherer wrote:
&gt;<i> Le vendredi 24 septembre 2010 &#224; 12:04 +1200, Graham Lauder a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Who do I talk to about setting up a Marketing Mail list
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> We postponed the mls creation until we have a clear delimitation and
</I>&gt;<i> understanding about the various sub groups who will need one, and until
</I>&gt;<i> we can find what we can offer to those subgroups to collaborate ( ie,
</I>&gt;<i> wiki, elgg, or any kind of tools, depending on the need, what is
</I>&gt;<i> available and so on ).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Marketing and communication somehow overlap if we look at the
</I>&gt;<i> description on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing</A> and
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication,">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication,</A>
</I>&gt;<i> communication and webteam may overlap ( as the web site is
</I>&gt;<i> communication ), so could webteam and design, or design and
</I>&gt;<i> communication.
</I>&gt;<i> And webteam and sysadmin may also overlap too or at least, will require
</I>&gt;<i> to discuss.
</I>
My first reaction was &quot;NOOOO, I want my exclusive MARKETING LIST!!&quot;
(note caps and 2, yes two, exclamation marks.  So restrained ;)  )

But then my consideration is that you are right.  We (people) tend to package 
things in terms of job descriptions.  This is a hangover from our offline work 
environment.

Marketing, website, education, documentation, graphic design: all are 
communication, so lets put them under a single mail list.  The more I think 
about it the more i like the synergies that would come out of that.
   

&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> So we thought that too much mls in the first place would be ineffective,
</I>&gt;<i> as this would get too messy too soon.
</I>
The only problem I have is that important stuff can get buried in noise.  For 
instance if a group of us were working on a mission statement, the thread 
would not be busy and would disappear off the bottom in really short order.  
The ideal solution of course would be a Email Subject/title convention, but 
noone ever sticks to those in an open source project, it's hard enough to get 
them to stop top posting!  :D  However a single Comms list would mitigate that 
to a degree

&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I can understand the need to have a list as it somehow act the creation
</I>&gt;<i> of the team, but I think we can do better than a ml to do that, except
</I>&gt;<i> that we do not have the definite infrastructure for this ( but we are
</I>&gt;<i> working hard on it ).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'll set up a pirate pad in any case.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I have been pondering on installing gobby on the server, because it is
</I>&gt;<i> packaged, and wait on <A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD</A> to
</I>&gt;<i> adapt the package for our current host ( running Mandriva ), since
</I>&gt;<i> etherpad is rumored to be quite complex to setup properly.
</I>
OK, they're horrible bloody things in many ways from a usage pov,

&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> In the mean time, yes, a piratepad would be a solution.
</I>
 I would prefer collaboration on google docs but pirate pads realtime update 
is a killer feature at this point and so I'll put up with the other 
irritations.

I will have breakfast and get into it 


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Graham Lauder,
OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A>

OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.

INGOTs Assessor Trainer
(International Grades in Open Technologies)
www.theingots.org
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