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+ <B>Graham Lauder</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">yorick_ at openoffice.org
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+ <I>Fri Sep 24 21:49:50 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Friday 24 Sep 2010 12:38:41 Michael Scherer wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 24 septembre 2010 &#224; 12:04 +1200, Graham Lauder a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Who do I talk to about setting up a Marketing Mail list
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We postponed the mls creation until we have a clear delimitation and
+</I>&gt;<i> understanding about the various sub groups who will need one, and until
+</I>&gt;<i> we can find what we can offer to those subgroups to collaborate ( ie,
+</I>&gt;<i> wiki, elgg, or any kind of tools, depending on the need, what is
+</I>&gt;<i> available and so on ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marketing and communication somehow overlap if we look at the
+</I>&gt;<i> description on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing</A> and
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication,">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication,</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> communication and webteam may overlap ( as the web site is
+</I>&gt;<i> communication ), so could webteam and design, or design and
+</I>&gt;<i> communication.
+</I>&gt;<i> And webteam and sysadmin may also overlap too or at least, will require
+</I>&gt;<i> to discuss.
+</I>
+My first reaction was &quot;NOOOO, I want my exclusive MARKETING LIST!!&quot;
+(note caps and 2, yes two, exclamation marks. So restrained ;) )
+
+But then my consideration is that you are right. We (people) tend to package
+things in terms of job descriptions. This is a hangover from our offline work
+environment.
+
+Marketing, website, education, documentation, graphic design: all are
+communication, so lets put them under a single mail list. The more I think
+about it the more i like the synergies that would come out of that.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So we thought that too much mls in the first place would be ineffective,
+</I>&gt;<i> as this would get too messy too soon.
+</I>
+The only problem I have is that important stuff can get buried in noise. For
+instance if a group of us were working on a mission statement, the thread
+would not be busy and would disappear off the bottom in really short order.
+The ideal solution of course would be a Email Subject/title convention, but
+noone ever sticks to those in an open source project, it's hard enough to get
+them to stop top posting! :D However a single Comms list would mitigate that
+to a degree
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can understand the need to have a list as it somehow act the creation
+</I>&gt;<i> of the team, but I think we can do better than a ml to do that, except
+</I>&gt;<i> that we do not have the definite infrastructure for this ( but we are
+</I>&gt;<i> working hard on it ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'll set up a pirate pad in any case.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have been pondering on installing gobby on the server, because it is
+</I>&gt;<i> packaged, and wait on <A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD</A> to
+</I>&gt;<i> adapt the package for our current host ( running Mandriva ), since
+</I>&gt;<i> etherpad is rumored to be quite complex to setup properly.
+</I>
+OK, they're horrible bloody things in many ways from a usage pov,
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the mean time, yes, a piratepad would be a solution.
+</I>
+ I would prefer collaboration on google docs but pirate pads realtime update
+is a killer feature at this point and so I'll put up with the other
+irritations.
+
+I will have breakfast and get into it
+
+
+--
+Graham Lauder,
+OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A>
+
+OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.
+
+INGOTs Assessor Trainer
+(International Grades in Open Technologies)
+www.theingots.org
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