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Le 03/07/2011 17:02, Max Quarterpleen a écrit :
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<div dir="ltr">This has also been discussed in the forum: <a
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:12 PM,
Thorsten van Lil <span dir="ltr"><<a
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padding-left: 1ex;">Hey,<br>
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the discussion also take place last week in the mailing
list, but I'd like to<br>
do that in an extra thread.<br>
<br>
To summarize the current situation:<br>
The current window decoration (Ia Ora), looks old fashioned
and is hard to<br>
maintain. It would also require a lot effort to port IaOra
to gtk3 (needed for<br>
Gnome3). Therefore we need a new window decorations and
there are the<br>
following solutions:<br>
1.) use the default decoration of each desktop environment:<br>
* Very easy, no extra work needed<br>
* all work is done upstream<br>
* no unique look for mageia<br>
* different look in kde and gnome<br>
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2.) create a new decoration for mageia<br>
* Unique look for mageia<br>
* uniform look in all environments<br>
* heavy heavy load for the devs (kde, qt4, gtk2, gtk3)<br>
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3.) Use other existing window decorations<br>
* easy, just a few work needed<br>
* the are decorations that exists for all common
environments -> uniform look<br>
* relative unique look for mageia<br>
* hard to say, what happens if the upstream developer drop
the decoration<br>
<br>
>From the dev-side of view, solution 1 is the best. But
form the artwork-side,<br>
I'm not very happy with it. Our KDE would look like Kubuntu,
but with a<br>
different startmenu button. Although a lot of people change
the decoration<br>
either, it's making a special first impression if it looks
different (and good,<br>
hopefully). Thus, I would like, if we can go with solution
3. But for that, we<br>
need more information.<br>
<br>
I need one of you, who will search the web for decorations
that exist in kde,<br>
gnome (and qt). And list them somewhere in the wiki. After
that, we can take a<br>
closer look, if this a practicable way, or if we better go
with an other<br>
solution.<br>
<br>
One extra note: It already has been mentioned, that the
oxygen window<br>
decoration (which is the default for KDE) exist also for
GNOME2/3 and Qt<br>
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Except some comments like "I don't like it" or "it's old", some
points we should keep in mind<br>
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- ia_ora took ages to be integrated in both KDE and GNOME. Design
part of the game is somewhat the smallest part of the iceberg :).
Technical integration is another story.<br>
- having the same theme for both KDE and GNOME is not only a
question of choosing an environment. More and more users are mixing
GTK and Qt apps. Having something uniform was quite a strong point
in Mandriva and it should be a mandatory point<br>
- as explained in first point, developping a theme is painfull. If
we have a theme available for bot environment that is a good
starting point. Developpers can always decide not to develop it at
one time. But at least we have something ready to use.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
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Regards,<br>
Thorsten<br>
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