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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20110703/2c364fb0/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20110703/2c364fb0/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..da57ced69 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20110703/2c364fb0/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,133 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> + Le 03/07/2011 17:02, Max Quarterpleen a écrit : + <blockquote +cite="mid:CABN=KyjR0WhUv0_a35HZZtuD6ysWM4QQtXrFS2A6qOFORahXNw@mail.gmail.com" + type="cite"> + <div dir="ltr">This has also been discussed in the forum: <a + moz-do-not-send="true" + href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=203">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=203</a><br> + <br> + <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:12 PM, + Thorsten van Lil <span dir="ltr"><<a + moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:tvl83@gmx.de">tvl83@gmx.de</a>></span> + wrote:<br> + <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt + 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); + padding-left: 1ex;">Hey,<br> + <br> + the discussion also take place last week in the mailing + list, but I'd like to<br> + do that in an extra thread.<br> + <br> + To summarize the current situation:<br> + The current window decoration (Ia Ora), looks old fashioned + and is hard to<br> + maintain. It would also require a lot effort to port IaOra + to gtk3 (needed for<br> + Gnome3). Therefore we need a new window decorations and + there are the<br> + following solutions:<br> + 1.) use the default decoration of each desktop environment:<br> + * Very easy, no extra work needed<br> + * all work is done upstream<br> + * no unique look for mageia<br> + * different look in kde and gnome<br> + <br> + 2.) create a new decoration for mageia<br> + * Unique look for mageia<br> + * uniform look in all environments<br> + * heavy heavy load for the devs (kde, qt4, gtk2, gtk3)<br> + <br> + 3.) Use other existing window decorations<br> + * easy, just a few work needed<br> + * the are decorations that exists for all common + environments -> uniform look<br> + * relative unique look for mageia<br> + * hard to say, what happens if the upstream developer drop + the decoration<br> + <br> + >From the dev-side of view, solution 1 is the best. But + form the artwork-side,<br> + I'm not very happy with it. Our KDE would look like Kubuntu, + but with a<br> + different startmenu button. Although a lot of people change + the decoration<br> + either, it's making a special first impression if it looks + different (and good,<br> + hopefully). Thus, I would like, if we can go with solution + 3. But for that, we<br> + need more information.<br> + <br> + I need one of you, who will search the web for decorations + that exist in kde,<br> + gnome (and qt). And list them somewhere in the wiki. After + that, we can take a<br> + closer look, if this a practicable way, or if we better go + with an other<br> + solution.<br> + <br> + One extra note: It already has been mentioned, that the + oxygen window<br> + decoration (which is the default for KDE) exist also for + GNOME2/3 and Qt<br> + </blockquote> + </div> + </div> + </blockquote> + <br> + Except some comments like "I don't like it" or "it's old", some + points we should keep in mind<br> + <br> + - ia_ora took ages to be integrated in both KDE and GNOME. Design + part of the game is somewhat the smallest part of the iceberg :). + Technical integration is another story.<br> + - having the same theme for both KDE and GNOME is not only a + question of choosing an environment. More and more users are mixing + GTK and Qt apps. Having something uniform was quite a strong point + in Mandriva and it should be a mandatory point<br> + - as explained in first point, developping a theme is painfull. If + we have a theme available for bot environment that is a good + starting point. Developpers can always decide not to develop it at + one time. But at least we have something ready to use.<br> + <br> + Cheers<br> + <br> + <blockquote +cite="mid:CABN=KyjR0WhUv0_a35HZZtuD6ysWM4QQtXrFS2A6qOFORahXNw@mail.gmail.com" + type="cite"> + <div dir="ltr"> + <div class="gmail_quote"> + <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt + 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); + padding-left: 1ex;"> + <br> + Regards,<br> + Thorsten<br> + _______________________________________________<br> + Mageia-artwork mailing list<br> + <a moz-do-not-send="true" + href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br> + <a moz-do-not-send="true" + href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" + target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br> + </blockquote> + </div> + <br> + </div> + <pre wrap=""> +<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-artwork mailing list +<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a> +<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a> +</pre> + </blockquote> + <br> + </body> +</html> |