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<H1>[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration</H1>
<B>Anne Nicolas</B>
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<PRE>Le 03/07/2011 17:02, Max Quarterpleen a écrit :
><i> This has also been discussed in the forum:
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=203">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=203</A>
</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=203">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=203</A>>
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</I>><i> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Thorsten van Lil <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>>> wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Hey,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> the discussion also take place last week in the mailing list, but
</I>><i> I'd like to
</I>><i> do that in an extra thread.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> To summarize the current situation:
</I>><i> The current window decoration (Ia Ora), looks old fashioned and is
</I>><i> hard to
</I>><i> maintain. It would also require a lot effort to port IaOra to gtk3
</I>><i> (needed for
</I>><i> Gnome3). Therefore we need a new window decorations and there are the
</I>><i> following solutions:
</I>><i> 1.) use the default decoration of each desktop environment:
</I>><i> * Very easy, no extra work needed
</I>><i> * all work is done upstream
</I>><i> * no unique look for mageia
</I>><i> * different look in kde and gnome
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 2.) create a new decoration for mageia
</I>><i> * Unique look for mageia
</I>><i> * uniform look in all environments
</I>><i> * heavy heavy load for the devs (kde, qt4, gtk2, gtk3)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 3.) Use other existing window decorations
</I>><i> * easy, just a few work needed
</I>><i> * the are decorations that exists for all common environments ->
</I>><i> uniform look
</I>><i> * relative unique look for mageia
</I>><i> * hard to say, what happens if the upstream developer drop the
</I>><i> decoration
</I>><i>
</I>><i> >From the dev-side of view, solution 1 is the best. But form the
</I>><i> artwork-side,
</I>><i> I'm not very happy with it. Our KDE would look like Kubuntu, but
</I>><i> with a
</I>><i> different startmenu button. Although a lot of people change the
</I>><i> decoration
</I>><i> either, it's making a special first impression if it looks
</I>><i> different (and good,
</I>><i> hopefully). Thus, I would like, if we can go with solution 3. But
</I>><i> for that, we
</I>><i> need more information.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I need one of you, who will search the web for decorations that
</I>><i> exist in kde,
</I>><i> gnome (and qt). And list them somewhere in the wiki. After that,
</I>><i> we can take a
</I>><i> closer look, if this a practicable way, or if we better go with an
</I>><i> other
</I>><i> solution.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> One extra note: It already has been mentioned, that the oxygen window
</I>><i> decoration (which is the default for KDE) exist also for GNOME2/3
</I>><i> and Qt
</I>><i>
</I>
Except some comments like "I don't like it" or "it's old", some points
we should keep in mind
- ia_ora took ages to be integrated in both KDE and GNOME. Design part
of the game is somewhat the smallest part of the iceberg :). Technical
integration is another story.
- having the same theme for both KDE and GNOME is not only a question of
choosing an environment. More and more users are mixing GTK and Qt apps.
Having something uniform was quite a strong point in Mandriva and it
should be a mandatory point
- as explained in first point, developping a theme is painfull. If we
have a theme available for bot environment that is a good starting
point. Developpers can always decide not to develop it at one time. But
at least we have something ready to use.
Cheers
><i>
</I>><i> Regards,
</I>><i> Thorsten
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