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It would also require a lot effort to port IaOra to gtk3 +</I>><i> (needed for +</I>><i> Gnome3). Therefore we need a new window decorations and there are the +</I>><i> following solutions: +</I>><i> 1.) use the default decoration of each desktop environment: +</I>><i> * Very easy, no extra work needed +</I>><i> * all work is done upstream +</I>><i> * no unique look for mageia +</I>><i> * different look in kde and gnome +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2.) create a new decoration for mageia +</I>><i> * Unique look for mageia +</I>><i> * uniform look in all environments +</I>><i> * heavy heavy load for the devs (kde, qt4, gtk2, gtk3) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 3.) Use other existing window decorations +</I>><i> * easy, just a few work needed +</I>><i> * the are decorations that exists for all common environments -> +</I>><i> uniform look +</I>><i> * relative unique look for mageia +</I>><i> * hard to say, what happens if the upstream developer drop the +</I>><i> decoration +</I>><i> +</I>><i> >From the dev-side of view, solution 1 is the best. But form the +</I>><i> artwork-side, +</I>><i> I'm not very happy with it. Our KDE would look like Kubuntu, but +</I>><i> with a +</I>><i> different startmenu button. Although a lot of people change the +</I>><i> decoration +</I>><i> either, it's making a special first impression if it looks +</I>><i> different (and good, +</I>><i> hopefully). Thus, I would like, if we can go with solution 3. But +</I>><i> for that, we +</I>><i> need more information. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I need one of you, who will search the web for decorations that +</I>><i> exist in kde, +</I>><i> gnome (and qt). And list them somewhere in the wiki. After that, +</I>><i> we can take a +</I>><i> closer look, if this a practicable way, or if we better go with an +</I>><i> other +</I>><i> solution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> One extra note: It already has been mentioned, that the oxygen window +</I>><i> decoration (which is the default for KDE) exist also for GNOME2/3 +</I>><i> and Qt +</I>><i> +</I> +Except some comments like "I don't like it" or "it's old", some points +we should keep in mind + +- ia_ora took ages to be integrated in both KDE and GNOME. Design part +of the game is somewhat the smallest part of the iceberg :). Technical +integration is another story. +- having the same theme for both KDE and GNOME is not only a question of +choosing an environment. More and more users are mixing GTK and Qt apps. +Having something uniform was quite a strong point in Mandriva and it +should be a mandatory point +- as explained in first point, developping a theme is painfull. If we +have a theme available for bot environment that is a good starting +point. Developpers can always decide not to develop it at one time. But +at least we have something ready to use. + +Cheers + +><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Thorsten +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-artwork mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-artwork mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A> +</I> +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-artwork/attachments/20110703/2c364fb0/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#573">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#573">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#573">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#573">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">More information about the Mageia-artwork +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |