[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-1.mga3

Tue May 29 19:30:33 CEST 2012

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Jani Välimaa <jani.valimaa at gmail.com> wrote:
+> On 29.05.2012 18:54, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+>> 'Twas brillig, and Jani Välimaa at 29/05/12 16:13 did gyre and gimble:
+>>> On 29.05.2012 17:38, Sander Lepik wrote:
+>>>> 29.05.2012 17:14, wally kirjutas:
+>>>>> Name        : task-obsolete                Relocations: (not relocatable)
+>>>>> Version     : 3                                 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+>>>>> Release     : 1.mga3                        Build Date: Tue May 29
+>>>>> 15:59:18 2012
+>>>>> [...]
+>>>>>
+>>>>> wally <wally> 3-1.mga3:
+>>>>> + Revision: 249259
+>>>>> - obsolete old libxfce4menu pkgs
+>>>> Hmm, since when do we obsolete libs like this?
+>>>>
+>>>
+>>> Since task-obsolete was introduced. It's a way to get rid of old,
+>>> obsoleted and unused pkgs which are also removed from SVN (moved to
+>>> /packages/obsolete/).
+>>
+>> I wasn't aware we ever did this and I can't think of a good reason to do
+>> so either so I would prefer this change was reverted (and any other old
+>> libs in there similarly removed from obsoletion).
+>>
+>> There is a difference between no longer shipping something and no longer
+>> supporting it being installed. If I've compiled my own software against
+>> any given library I do not want something to remove it automatically and
+>> break my build. That's the whole point in having library packaging the
+>> way we do - to allow them to live on mostly forever on an installed
+>> system. If we no longer support something being installed then using
+>> task-obsoletes seems wise.
+>
+> I guess we need another way to drop pkgs easily from our mirrors then.
+>
+>>
+>> Users are then responsible for removing old library packages they no
+>> longer want from their system using either the urpme --auto-orphans or
+>> urpmq --not-available.
+>>
+>> Maybe I've misunderstood the intention here, and if so feel free to
+>> correct me!
+>>
+>
+> My primary motives was to drop pkgs from our repos, but in this case
+> there's no need to have libxfce4menu installed in any system as it was
+> abandoned upstream over 1.5 years ago and there's no pkgs needing it in
+> our repos (mga1, mga2 or mga3).
+>
+> Can't say anything about other cases, though.
+
+packages are automatically removed from the repo ( or by pterjan i
+don't recall ) so no need and we never obsolete libs.
+