[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-1.mga3

Tue May 29 18:29:28 CEST 2012

On 29.05.2012 18:54, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+> 'Twas brillig, and Jani Välimaa at 29/05/12 16:13 did gyre and gimble:
+>> On 29.05.2012 17:38, Sander Lepik wrote:
+>>> 29.05.2012 17:14, wally kirjutas:
+>>>> Name        : task-obsolete                Relocations: (not relocatable)
+>>>> Version     : 3                                 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+>>>> Release     : 1.mga3                        Build Date: Tue May 29
+>>>> 15:59:18 2012
+>>>> [...]
+>>>>
+>>>> wally <wally> 3-1.mga3:
+>>>> + Revision: 249259
+>>>> - obsolete old libxfce4menu pkgs
+>>> Hmm, since when do we obsolete libs like this?
+>>>
+>>
+>> Since task-obsolete was introduced. It's a way to get rid of old,
+>> obsoleted and unused pkgs which are also removed from SVN (moved to
+>> /packages/obsolete/).
+> 
+> I wasn't aware we ever did this and I can't think of a good reason to do
+> so either so I would prefer this change was reverted (and any other old
+> libs in there similarly removed from obsoletion).
+> 
+> There is a difference between no longer shipping something and no longer
+> supporting it being installed. If I've compiled my own software against
+> any given library I do not want something to remove it automatically and
+> break my build. That's the whole point in having library packaging the
+> way we do - to allow them to live on mostly forever on an installed
+> system. If we no longer support something being installed then using
+> task-obsoletes seems wise.
+
+I guess we need another way to drop pkgs easily from our mirrors then.
+
+> 
+> Users are then responsible for removing old library packages they no
+> longer want from their system using either the urpme --auto-orphans or
+> urpmq --not-available.
+> 
+> Maybe I've misunderstood the intention here, and if so feel free to
+> correct me!
+> 
+
+My primary motives was to drop pkgs from our repos, but in this case
+there's no need to have libxfce4menu installed in any system as it was
+abandoned upstream over 1.5 years ago and there's no pkgs needing it in
+our repos (mga1, mga2 or mga3).
+
+Can't say anything about other cases, though.
+