[Mageia-dev] Blogdrake repository for Mageia

Mon Oct 17 10:34:53 CEST 2011

This package is in:
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+ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/SRPMS/faac-1.28-1bdk.mga1.src.rpm
+
+You can find a list with this package and much more in:
+ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/incoming/MGA/joaquin/mageia.txt
+
+Regards.
+
+2011/10/17 Philippe DIDIER <philippedidier at laposte.net>
+
+> andre999 a écrit :
+> > Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
+> >> Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
+> >>
+> >>> Joaquin Mandriva a écrit :
+> >>>
+> >>>> Hello!
+> >>>>
+> >>>> My name is Joaquin, belonging to http://blogdrake.net
+> >>>> <http://blogdrake.net/>  team. I am
+> >>>> writing to you because I would like to let you know that we have
+> >>>> created a repository with a big amount of good programs for Mageia.
+> >>>> Our final target is to upload all of them to the official Mageia's
+> >>>> repositories.
+> >>>>
+> >>>> We are currently uploading all these packages to the Mageia's BS step
+> >>>> by step, because there are few people of us to do so. Also, also we
+> >>>> don't have too much time because we also take care of Blogdrake,
+> >>>> Mageia's news and the translations English to Spanish.
+> >>>>
+> >>>> Meanwhile, you can use and enjoy our repository in this way:
+> >>>>
+> >>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
+> >>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586
+> >>>>
+> >>>> The x86_64 repository is not finished yet, but you still can add it in
+> >>>> this way:
+> >>>>
+> >>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
+> >>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64
+> >>>>
+> >>>> Cheers!
+> >>>>
+> >>> Hello
+> >>> Thanks to you...
+> >>>
+> >>>
+> >>> Just one thing to correct : your repos addresses are :
+> >>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/
+> >>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/
+> >>>
+> >>> nevertheless I could surf through your repos :
+> >>> Some of the rpms you propose reply to rpm requests already done or that
+> >>> I was going to write (reading my thoughts ?)
+> >>>
+> >>> :)
+> >>>
+> >>> First thing I must say : it's a very good idea to upload these packages
+> >>> to the BS and join the packagers team instead of providing third party
+> >>> repos that will soon create compatibility problems (as in the past for
+> >>> Mandrake and Mandriva with Thac's or MIB or others)
+> >>>
+> >>> The second thing is : before uploading them you will have to be careful
+> >>> with the repos policy (core tainted non-free)
+> >>> In your own repo, there is a problematic package : faac (and libfaac0
+> >>> libfaac-devel) which is both non-free and tainted ...
+> >>> After long dicussions on the mailing list a meeting decision was not to
+> >>> provide it at the moment (nor the packages built with it...)
+> >>> If a non-free-&-tainted repo is created for Mageia2, in the future, it
+> >>> will be then allowed ... wait and see !
+> >>>
+> >>>
+> >>>
+> >>>
+> >>>
+> >> I was thinking about a workaround to the problem of "non-free_&_tainted"
+> >> rpms in Mageia
+> >>
+> >> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833
+> >>
+> >> Some multimedia programs can't correctly handle files containing aac
+> >> sound (*.aac *.mp4 *.m4a) because faac and faac-devel are not provided.
+> >> And that's really missing !!!
+> >>
+> >>
+> >> They can't and won't be backported to Mageia1 official repos...
+> >>
+> >> Perhaps a new "non-free&  tainted" repo will exist for Mageia2
+> >>
+> >>
+> >> Actually for Mageia1 Blogdrake might provide a third repo for this dozen
+> >> of srpms (even if the existence of third repo is not riskless)
+> >>
+> >> Picking their last spec file from Mageia, and modifying the plf or
+> >> tainted conditionnal building options to allow building with
+> >> faac-devel... wouldn't be too much difficult and wouldn't bring much
+> >> compatibility problems
+> >>
+> >> If the version number is the same as in mageia repos, a "twisted"
+> >> distsuffix would allow to "update" to them from core or tainted version
+> >> (the same way as "tainted" distsuffix allows to update from a core
+> >> release)
+> >> and wouldn't prevent to update to a core or tainted new version later if
+> >> provided in official updates repo
+> >>
+> >>
+> >> But... there's the :
+> >> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317
+> >> would it add other problems to this ?
+> >>
+> >> But too there wouldn't exist QA for them
+> >>
+> >> What do you think (on Mageia side and on Blogdrake side) ?
+> >>
+> >
+> > A personal POV from the Mageia side --
+> > It could be a good way to evaluate the need for a Nonfree+Tainted repo,
+> > as well as providing a ready source for those interested in such
+> packages.
+> >
+> > Maybe another approach could be to try to separate nonfree and tainted
+> > parts, so that either
+> > - nonfree packages could optionally use "tainted" packages if installed,
+> or
+> > - "tainted" packages could optionally use nonfree packages if installed,
+> > each in their respective current repos.
+> > Which won't work if a particular component is necessarily both nonfree
+> > and "tainted".
+> That's the problem : we have already tainted packages ... they have been
+> built without faac-devel and don't require faac which is both tainted
+> and non-free  :-(
+> If they are built with faac the binaries become non-free (not LGPL) and
+> stay tainted ... (they can't be splitted in parts)
+> it's true for avidemux, mencoder, handbrake, audiokonverter, and some
+> others (the list is in the bug report
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833)
+>  it's an aporia !
+> I don't want to argue again about the decision for the Mageia's repos !
+> only need to find a way to get working binaries for my purpose... and I
+> think I'm not alone to have to work with a quasi standard for multimedia
+> files on internet.
+> plf allowed that for Mandriva ...
+> no third repo allows this for Mageia
+> If I'm alone, never mind, I know how to build my own (two lines to
+> modify in a spec file and => rpmbuild -ba  ... that's all folks! )
+> If newcomers try Mageia and has to be taught how to build a rpm, they
+> better will use debian or fedora or ubuntu or opensuse that have quasi
+> official third repos for this problem...
+>
+> >
+> > my 2 cents :-)
+> >
+> my 2 λεπτες
+>
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