[Mageia-dev] Blogdrake repository for Mageia

Mon Oct 17 11:10:52 CEST 2011

Hi all,
+we have libfaac already packaged
+
+http://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/
+
+It's a dependence of cinelerra
+
+Cheers
+
+2011/10/17 Joaquin Mandriva <joaquinmandriva at gmail.com>
+
+> This package is in:
+>
+> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/SRPMS/faac-1.28-1bdk.mga1.src.rpm
+>
+> You can find a list with this package and much more in:
+> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/incoming/MGA/joaquin/mageia.txt
+>
+> Regards.
+>
+>
+> 2011/10/17 Philippe DIDIER <philippedidier at laposte.net>
+>
+>> andre999 a écrit :
+>> > Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
+>> >> Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
+>> >>
+>> >>> Joaquin Mandriva a écrit :
+>> >>>
+>> >>>> Hello!
+>> >>>>
+>> >>>> My name is Joaquin, belonging to http://blogdrake.net
+>> >>>> <http://blogdrake.net/>  team. I am
+>> >>>> writing to you because I would like to let you know that we have
+>> >>>> created a repository with a big amount of good programs for Mageia.
+>> >>>> Our final target is to upload all of them to the official Mageia's
+>> >>>> repositories.
+>> >>>>
+>> >>>> We are currently uploading all these packages to the Mageia's BS step
+>> >>>> by step, because there are few people of us to do so. Also, also we
+>> >>>> don't have too much time because we also take care of Blogdrake,
+>> >>>> Mageia's news and the translations English to Spanish.
+>> >>>>
+>> >>>> Meanwhile, you can use and enjoy our repository in this way:
+>> >>>>
+>> >>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
+>> >>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586
+>> >>>>
+>> >>>> The x86_64 repository is not finished yet, but you still can add it
+>> in
+>> >>>> this way:
+>> >>>>
+>> >>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
+>> >>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64
+>> >>>>
+>> >>>> Cheers!
+>> >>>>
+>> >>> Hello
+>> >>> Thanks to you...
+>> >>>
+>> >>>
+>> >>> Just one thing to correct : your repos addresses are :
+>> >>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/
+>> >>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/
+>> >>>
+>> >>> nevertheless I could surf through your repos :
+>> >>> Some of the rpms you propose reply to rpm requests already done or
+>> that
+>> >>> I was going to write (reading my thoughts ?)
+>> >>>
+>> >>> :)
+>> >>>
+>> >>> First thing I must say : it's a very good idea to upload these
+>> packages
+>> >>> to the BS and join the packagers team instead of providing third party
+>> >>> repos that will soon create compatibility problems (as in the past for
+>> >>> Mandrake and Mandriva with Thac's or MIB or others)
+>> >>>
+>> >>> The second thing is : before uploading them you will have to be
+>> careful
+>> >>> with the repos policy (core tainted non-free)
+>> >>> In your own repo, there is a problematic package : faac (and libfaac0
+>> >>> libfaac-devel) which is both non-free and tainted ...
+>> >>> After long dicussions on the mailing list a meeting decision was not
+>> to
+>> >>> provide it at the moment (nor the packages built with it...)
+>> >>> If a non-free-&-tainted repo is created for Mageia2, in the future, it
+>> >>> will be then allowed ... wait and see !
+>> >>>
+>> >>>
+>> >>>
+>> >>>
+>> >>>
+>> >> I was thinking about a workaround to the problem of
+>> "non-free_&_tainted"
+>> >> rpms in Mageia
+>> >>
+>> >> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833
+>> >>
+>> >> Some multimedia programs can't correctly handle files containing aac
+>> >> sound (*.aac *.mp4 *.m4a) because faac and faac-devel are not provided.
+>> >> And that's really missing !!!
+>> >>
+>> >>
+>> >> They can't and won't be backported to Mageia1 official repos...
+>> >>
+>> >> Perhaps a new "non-free&  tainted" repo will exist for Mageia2
+>> >>
+>> >>
+>> >> Actually for Mageia1 Blogdrake might provide a third repo for this
+>> dozen
+>> >> of srpms (even if the existence of third repo is not riskless)
+>> >>
+>> >> Picking their last spec file from Mageia, and modifying the plf or
+>> >> tainted conditionnal building options to allow building with
+>> >> faac-devel... wouldn't be too much difficult and wouldn't bring much
+>> >> compatibility problems
+>> >>
+>> >> If the version number is the same as in mageia repos, a "twisted"
+>> >> distsuffix would allow to "update" to them from core or tainted version
+>> >> (the same way as "tainted" distsuffix allows to update from a core
+>> >> release)
+>> >> and wouldn't prevent to update to a core or tainted new version later
+>> if
+>> >> provided in official updates repo
+>> >>
+>> >>
+>> >> But... there's the :
+>> >> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317
+>> >> would it add other problems to this ?
+>> >>
+>> >> But too there wouldn't exist QA for them
+>> >>
+>> >> What do you think (on Mageia side and on Blogdrake side) ?
+>> >>
+>> >
+>> > A personal POV from the Mageia side --
+>> > It could be a good way to evaluate the need for a Nonfree+Tainted repo,
+>> > as well as providing a ready source for those interested in such
+>> packages.
+>> >
+>> > Maybe another approach could be to try to separate nonfree and tainted
+>> > parts, so that either
+>> > - nonfree packages could optionally use "tainted" packages if installed,
+>> or
+>> > - "tainted" packages could optionally use nonfree packages if installed,
+>> > each in their respective current repos.
+>> > Which won't work if a particular component is necessarily both nonfree
+>> > and "tainted".
+>> That's the problem : we have already tainted packages ... they have been
+>> built without faac-devel and don't require faac which is both tainted
+>> and non-free  :-(
+>> If they are built with faac the binaries become non-free (not LGPL) and
+>> stay tainted ... (they can't be splitted in parts)
+>> it's true for avidemux, mencoder, handbrake, audiokonverter, and some
+>> others (the list is in the bug report
+>> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833)
+>>  it's an aporia !
+>> I don't want to argue again about the decision for the Mageia's repos !
+>> only need to find a way to get working binaries for my purpose... and I
+>> think I'm not alone to have to work with a quasi standard for multimedia
+>> files on internet.
+>> plf allowed that for Mandriva ...
+>> no third repo allows this for Mageia
+>> If I'm alone, never mind, I know how to build my own (two lines to
+>> modify in a spec file and => rpmbuild -ba  ... that's all folks! )
+>> If newcomers try Mageia and has to be taught how to build a rpm, they
+>> better will use debian or fedora or ubuntu or opensuse that have quasi
+>> official third repos for this problem...
+>>
+>> >
+>> > my 2 cents :-)
+>> >
+>> my 2 λεπτες
+>>
+>>
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