[Mageia-dev] Blogdrake repository for Mageia

Mon Oct 17 05:28:31 CEST 2011

andre999 a écrit :
+> Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
+>> Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
+>>   
+>>> Joaquin Mandriva a écrit :
+>>>     
+>>>> Hello!
+>>>>
+>>>> My name is Joaquin, belonging to http://blogdrake.net
+>>>> <http://blogdrake.net/>  team. I am
+>>>> writing to you because I would like to let you know that we have
+>>>> created a repository with a big amount of good programs for Mageia.
+>>>> Our final target is to upload all of them to the official Mageia's
+>>>> repositories.
+>>>>
+>>>> We are currently uploading all these packages to the Mageia's BS step
+>>>> by step, because there are few people of us to do so. Also, also we
+>>>> don't have too much time because we also take care of Blogdrake,
+>>>> Mageia's news and the translations English to Spanish.
+>>>>
+>>>> Meanwhile, you can use and enjoy our repository in this way:
+>>>>
+>>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
+>>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586
+>>>>
+>>>> The x86_64 repository is not finished yet, but you still can add it in
+>>>> this way:
+>>>>
+>>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
+>>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64
+>>>>
+>>>> Cheers!
+>>>>        
+>>> Hello
+>>> Thanks to you...
+>>>
+>>>
+>>> Just one thing to correct : your repos addresses are :
+>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/
+>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/
+>>>
+>>> nevertheless I could surf through your repos :
+>>> Some of the rpms you propose reply to rpm requests already done or that
+>>> I was going to write (reading my thoughts ?)
+>>>
+>>> :)
+>>>
+>>> First thing I must say : it's a very good idea to upload these packages
+>>> to the BS and join the packagers team instead of providing third party
+>>> repos that will soon create compatibility problems (as in the past for
+>>> Mandrake and Mandriva with Thac's or MIB or others)
+>>>
+>>> The second thing is : before uploading them you will have to be careful
+>>> with the repos policy (core tainted non-free)
+>>> In your own repo, there is a problematic package : faac (and libfaac0
+>>> libfaac-devel) which is both non-free and tainted ...
+>>> After long dicussions on the mailing list a meeting decision was not to
+>>> provide it at the moment (nor the packages built with it...)
+>>> If a non-free-&-tainted repo is created for Mageia2, in the future, it
+>>> will be then allowed ... wait and see !
+>>>
+>>>
+>>>
+>>>
+>>>      
+>> I was thinking about a workaround to the problem of "non-free_&_tainted"
+>> rpms in Mageia
+>>
+>> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833
+>>
+>> Some multimedia programs can't correctly handle files containing aac
+>> sound (*.aac *.mp4 *.m4a) because faac and faac-devel are not provided.
+>> And that's really missing !!!
+>>
+>>
+>> They can't and won't be backported to Mageia1 official repos...
+>>
+>> Perhaps a new "non-free&  tainted" repo will exist for Mageia2
+>>
+>>
+>> Actually for Mageia1 Blogdrake might provide a third repo for this dozen
+>> of srpms (even if the existence of third repo is not riskless)
+>>
+>> Picking their last spec file from Mageia, and modifying the plf or
+>> tainted conditionnal building options to allow building with
+>> faac-devel... wouldn't be too much difficult and wouldn't bring much
+>> compatibility problems
+>>
+>> If the version number is the same as in mageia repos, a "twisted"
+>> distsuffix would allow to "update" to them from core or tainted version
+>> (the same way as "tainted" distsuffix allows to update from a core
+>> release)
+>> and wouldn't prevent to update to a core or tainted new version later if
+>> provided in official updates repo
+>>
+>>
+>> But... there's the :
+>> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317
+>> would it add other problems to this ?
+>>
+>> But too there wouldn't exist QA for them
+>>
+>> What do you think (on Mageia side and on Blogdrake side) ?
+>>    
+> 
+> A personal POV from the Mageia side --
+> It could be a good way to evaluate the need for a Nonfree+Tainted repo,
+> as well as providing a ready source for those interested in such packages.
+> 
+> Maybe another approach could be to try to separate nonfree and tainted
+> parts, so that either
+> - nonfree packages could optionally use "tainted" packages if installed, or
+> - "tainted" packages could optionally use nonfree packages if installed,
+> each in their respective current repos.
+> Which won't work if a particular component is necessarily both nonfree
+> and "tainted".
+That's the problem : we have already tainted packages ... they have been
+built without faac-devel and don't require faac which is both tainted
+and non-free  :-(
+If they are built with faac the binaries become non-free (not LGPL) and
+stay tainted ... (they can't be splitted in parts)
+it's true for avidemux, mencoder, handbrake, audiokonverter, and some
+others (the list is in the bug report
+https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833)
+ it's an aporia !
+I don't want to argue again about the decision for the Mageia's repos !
+only need to find a way to get working binaries for my purpose... and I
+think I'm not alone to have to work with a quasi standard for multimedia
+files on internet.
+plf allowed that for Mandriva ...
+no third repo allows this for Mageia
+If I'm alone, never mind, I know how to build my own (two lines to
+modify in a spec file and => rpmbuild -ba  ... that's all folks! )
+If newcomers try Mageia and has to be taught how to build a rpm, they
+better will use debian or fedora or ubuntu or opensuse that have quasi
+official third repos for this problem...
+
+> 
+> my 2 cents :-)
+> 
+my 2 λεπτες
+
+