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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>Ooops, I actually meant to send this to Cauldron....
+
+Col
+
+
+'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 31/03/13 17:03 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> The setup package contains /etc/group and friends, but when installing a
+</I>&gt;<i> chroot, it is not installed until after some packages which require the
+</I>&gt;<i> default groups it defines (e.g. sysvinit-legacy-tools requires the tty
+</I>&gt;<i> group yet it is installed before setup.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now here comes the tricky part... As part of the very first transaction
+</I>&gt;<i> which includes filesystem and glibc, dash-static is pulled in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> dash-static requires the &quot;mail&quot; group defined by setup package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So really glibc requires dash-static which requires setup which requires
+</I>&gt;<i> glibc and shadow-utils and run-parts...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we really want to add this loop?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd suggest we should rejig setup to not have a hard require on glibc,
+</I>&gt;<i> shadow-utils and run-parts but still run it's current scripts if the
+</I>&gt;<i> needed binaries/tools are installed (i.e. on package upgrade) and then
+</I>&gt;<i> rejig dash-static to Require(pre): setup. This should ensure things are
+</I>&gt;<i> installed properly (I think - although not sure how this will affect the
+</I>&gt;<i> initial transaction split...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any other/better thoughts?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+<PRE>On 1 April 2013 15:24, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> The setup package contains /etc/group and friends, but when installing a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> chroot, it is not installed until after some packages which require the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> default groups it defines (e.g. sysvinit-legacy-tools requires the tty
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> group yet it is installed before setup.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now here comes the tricky part... As part of the very first transaction
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which includes filesystem and glibc, dash-static is pulled in.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dash-static requires the &quot;mail&quot; group defined by setup package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So really glibc requires dash-static which requires setup which requires
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> glibc and shadow-utils and run-parts...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do we really want to add this loop?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd suggest we should rejig setup to not have a hard require on glibc,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shadow-utils and run-parts but still run it's current scripts if the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> needed binaries/tools are installed (i.e. on package upgrade) and then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rejig dash-static to Require(pre): setup. This should ensure things are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed properly (I think - although not sure how this will affect the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> initial transaction split...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any other/better thoughts?
+</I>
+rewrite glibc scriptlets in lua instead of sh
+See <A HREF="http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/RpmLua">http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/RpmLua</A>
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 01/04/13 14:37 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 1 April 2013 15:24, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The setup package contains /etc/group and friends, but when installing a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> chroot, it is not installed until after some packages which require the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> default groups it defines (e.g. sysvinit-legacy-tools requires the tty
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> group yet it is installed before setup.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now here comes the tricky part... As part of the very first transaction
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which includes filesystem and glibc, dash-static is pulled in.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dash-static requires the &quot;mail&quot; group defined by setup package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So really glibc requires dash-static which requires setup which requires
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> glibc and shadow-utils and run-parts...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do we really want to add this loop?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'd suggest we should rejig setup to not have a hard require on glibc,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shadow-utils and run-parts but still run it's current scripts if the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> needed binaries/tools are installed (i.e. on package upgrade) and then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rejig dash-static to Require(pre): setup. This should ensure things are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed properly (I think - although not sure how this will affect the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> initial transaction split...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any other/better thoughts?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rewrite glibc scriptlets in lua instead of sh
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/RpmLua">http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/RpmLua</A>
+</I>
+The glibc scriptlets don't seem to really *need* dash-static anyway...
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at jimmy</A> ~]# rpm -q --scripts glibc| grep dash
+preinstall scriptlet (using /usr/bin/dash.static):
+
+
+So it's only the preinst script. That should be trivial to rewrite in lua.
+
+
+
+OK, so that does avoid the loop, but....... should we still try to work
+out a nice way to get &quot;setup&quot; (and thus the default groups that packages
+may use) installed early or is it just a housekeeping job to make sure
+packages Require(pre) setup package if they want to use the users
+defined in it?
+
+Perhaps we could add some kind of rpmfilter thingy to automatically add
+this Require(pre)? Is that possible? If so then it might also be
+possible to write similar automatic Require(pre,post,etc) to packages
+using rpm-helper stuff too... that would be be quire nice and reduce the
+packaging burden :)
+
+Col
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Fwd%3A%20Rebuild%20failed%20on%20x86_64%20for%0A%09%40407096%3Abasesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtav%3Dze%2B-wr%2BRoVBxer%2B06KEGiUCGo5n4ztK3ChQ1jo1Kw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>Please force this one (manual build+copy) in order to get back
+/etc/shadow creation
+
+
+---------- Forwarded message ----------
+From: Ulri the scheduler bot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Date: 2 April 2013 07:30
+Subject: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+To: tv &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tv at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+
+Build of the following packages failed:
+
+- @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+
+Failure details available in
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130402052919.tv.valstar.18153/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130402052919.tv.valstar.18153/log</A>
+Reason:
+@407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm: recreate_srpm_failure
+
+Log files generated:
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+<PRE>still same failure with rebuilded basesystem:
+
+
+I: [iurt] [iurt] --------------- Command failed, full output follows
+---------------
+I: [iurt] [iurt] D: [iurt_root_command] chroot
+su: Insufficient credentials to access authentication data
+I: [iurt_root_command] ERROR: chroot
+
+I: [iurt] [iurt] --------------- end of command output ---------------
+
+
+
+On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Thierry Vignaud
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Please force this one (manual build+copy) in order to get back
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/shadow creation
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Ulri the scheduler bot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: 2 April 2013 07:30
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> To: tv &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tv at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Failure details available in
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130402052919.tv.valstar.18153/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130402052919.tv.valstar.18153/log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;<i> @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm: recreate_srpm_failure
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A>
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+<PRE>i looked in the new chroot and /etc/shadow is present.
+
+
+On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:52 AM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> still same failure with rebuilded basesystem:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I: [iurt] [iurt] --------------- Command failed, full output follows ---------------
+</I>&gt;<i> I: [iurt] [iurt] D: [iurt_root_command] chroot
+</I>&gt;<i> su: Insufficient credentials to access authentication data
+</I>&gt;<i> I: [iurt_root_command] ERROR: chroot
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I: [iurt] [iurt] --------------- end of command output ---------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please force this one (manual build+copy) in order to get back
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/shadow creation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From: Ulri the scheduler bot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Date: 2 April 2013 07:30
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Subject: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To: tv &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tv at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Failure details available in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130402052919.tv.valstar.18153/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20130402052919.tv.valstar.18153/log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm: recreate_srpm_failure
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-sysadm mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A>
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Calenco%20notifications%20%28Re%3A%20Migration%20of%0A%09zarb%09mailling%20lists%29&In-Reply-To=%3C20130403133129.GD21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Calenco notifications (Re: Migration of zarb mailling lists)">boklm at mars-attacks.org
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+ <I>Wed Apr 3 15:31:29 CEST 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 29 Mar 2013, Marja van Waes wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On 29/03/13 08:06, Oliver Burger wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 28.03.2013 18:30, schrieb nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In the wiki there is:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A> =&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">i18n-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A> and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">i18n-bugs at ml.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does the global i18n team need a bugs mailing ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Today I assigned a bug to them, but it's the first one since a long
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What could be useful is to add all existing <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">i18n-locale at ml.mageia.org</A> as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bugzilla id.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok. What do the i18n team think about this ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it would be good to have a global bugs ml. Not all language
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> teams (aka those who are only one person) don't have an ml of their own.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I'd go for i18n-discuss and i18n-bugs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In that case, the idea to let Calenco translation notifications go to the
+</I>&gt;<i> mls of teams isn't that good, after all. I suppose they should then go to
+</I>&gt;<i> i18n-bugs, too.
+</I>
+For sysadmin we have a sysadmin-reports mailing list to receive various
+notifications. It's possible to do something similar for i18n, for
+instance with a i18n-reports@ list, if you think that would be useful.
+
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, 28 Mar 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and nicolas vigier at 28/03/13 16:36 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, 28 Mar 2013, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and nicolas vigier at 27/03/13 16:24 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, 27 Mar 2013, Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hash: SHA1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 27.03.2013 16:44, nicolas vigier kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hey,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Why not just <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dev at ml.mageia.org</A>? Same for other something-discuss
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lists. I'd drop the discuss part, seems obvious :) (and would be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; easier to remember..)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; The reason for [something]-discuss is that not all lists are for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; discussions. For instance there are lists for bugzilla mails
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ([something]-bugs), lists for commits mails ([something]-commits), etc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Makes sense. I'm not super fussed either way, but perhaps the -discuss
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; could be implied if it's not present (e.g. all the specific ML's for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; commits, bugs etc. have their suffix but in the absence of a suffix
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; implies it's a &quot;discussion&quot; mailing list)?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, -discuss could be implied, but if we do that we should probably
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; also rename all existing mailing lists which are using -discuss in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; their name :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/qa-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/qa-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/forums-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/forums-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/doc-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/doc-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/local-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/local-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Meh, not worth it :)
+</I>
+But we also have the &quot;council&quot; list, which is a discussion list, and
+doesn't have -discuss in its name.
+
+So maybe we could have this rule :
+- [teamname]-discuss@ for team discussion lists
+- [teamname]-[bugs,commits,reports...]@ for other team lists
+- [something]@ for general discussion lists about some topic
+
+So if we say dev is the general developement mailing list discussion
+(not only for packagers team), then it could be <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dev at ml.mageia.org.</A>
+
+What do you think ?
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+to our servers using iptables + ip6tables
+
+We should generate this in puppet using the list of nodes IPs, and probably
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+---------- Message transf&#233;r&#233; ----------
+De : &quot;Wolfgang Bornath&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+Date : 5 avr. 2013 18:22
+Objet : [Mageia-discuss] Mageia forums not accessible
+&#192; : &quot;Mageia general discussions&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Cc :
+
+Both forums (EN &amp; DE) have been out of order for some time showing
+&quot;General Error / sql error&quot;. I'm posting this here because I don't
+know whether it's sysadmin or forum team or web team to contact.
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+Le 05/04/2013 14:45, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> As our postgresql is listening on public IP, I have manually restricted
+</I>&gt;<i> it to our servers using iptables + ip6tables
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should generate this in puppet using the list of nodes IPs, and
+</I>&gt;<i> probably have other servers to protect.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-sysadm mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+Could that be the cause of forum meeting pgsql error ?
+
+Just my 2 cents
+
+Ma&#226;t
+
+
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Ma&#226;t skrev 5.4.2013 20:26:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 05/04/2013 14:45, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As our postgresql is listening on public IP, I have manually restricted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it to our servers using iptables + ip6tables
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We should generate this in puppet using the list of nodes IPs, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> probably have other servers to protect.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-sysadm mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could that be the cause of forum meeting pgsql error ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Yep, I just fixed it.
+
+--
+Thomas
+
+
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+<PRE>Le 05/04/2013 20:09, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Ma&#226;t skrev 5.4.2013 20:26:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 05/04/2013 14:45, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As our postgresql is listening on public IP, I have manually restricted
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it to our servers using iptables + ip6tables
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We should generate this in puppet using the list of nodes IPs, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> probably have other servers to protect.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-sysadm mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could that be the cause of forum meeting pgsql error ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, I just fixed it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+\o/
+
+Thanks a lot Thomas
+
+
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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] New mailing lists - Got both subscribed and can't be subscribed messages.">davidwhodgins at gmail.com
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+I just received two messages ...
+Welcome to list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>
+Your subscription email is <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>
+
+and
+
+You are receiving this email because you were subscribed to
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-discuss at mageia.org.</A>
+
+This list is replaced by the new mailing list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">discuss at ml.mageia.org.</A>
+
+This new mailing list requires a Mageia Identity account
+&lt;snip instructions on how to subscribe&gt;
+
+Something is wrong. I should not have been sent the
+one about not having an identity account.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] New mailing lists - Got both subscribed and can't be subscribed messages.">boklm at mars-attacks.org
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+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just received two messages ...
+</I>&gt;<i> Welcome to list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Your subscription email is <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You are receiving this email because you were subscribed to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-discuss at mageia.org.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This list is replaced by the new mailing list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">discuss at ml.mageia.org.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This new mailing list requires a Mageia Identity account
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;snip instructions on how to subscribe&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Something is wrong. I should not have been sent the
+</I>&gt;<i> one about not having an identity account.
+</I>
+Yes, that was a mistake. The 2nd one was sent to the wrong list (people
+who have been subscribed, instead of the people who have not).
+
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+people from zarb.org proposed to host the basic project infrastructure
+(mainly the website, wiki and mailing lists) until the project can have
+its own servers. Mageia.Org now have a few servers since October 2010
+(thanks to donations for the servers and Lost Oasis and Gandi for the
+hosting), but until now the existing mailing lists hosted by zarb.org
+had not been migrated to the Mageia mailing lists server. It is now time
+to do it and close this mailing list.
+
+This mailing list will be closed in coming hours and is now replaced by
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">sysadmin-discuss at ml.mageia.org.</A>
+
+The new mailing list requires a Mageia Identity account
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+
+You can find more details about mailing lists subscription and available
+lists on this page :
+&#160;&#160;&#160; <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mailing_lists">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mailing_lists</A>
+
+The archives for the old mailing lists will be available on
+<A HREF="http://archives.mageia.org/">http://archives.mageia.org/</A> (in a few days).
+
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+<LI><A HREF="005081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] (no subject)
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+<LI><A HREF="005086.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="005077.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
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+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="5078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005073.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005075.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005088.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New mailing lists - Got both subscribed and can't be subscribed messages.
+</A><A NAME="5088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005085.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005087.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005084.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia forums not accessible
+</A><A NAME="5084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005090.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mailing list migration: this list is closing
+</A><A NAME="5090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mageia Sysadmins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005083.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005074.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="5076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Calenco notifications (Re: Migration of zarb mailling lists)
+</A><A NAME="5079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Migration of zarb mailling lists
+</A><A NAME="5080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005089.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New mailing lists - Got both subscribed and can't be subscribed messages.
+</A><A NAME="5089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 8 01:20:52 CEST 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Apr 8 01:32:14 CEST 2013</i>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 1 15:24:24 CEST 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Apr 8 01:20:52 CEST 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 18<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005073.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005074.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005075.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="5076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005077.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="5077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="5078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Calenco notifications (Re: Migration of zarb mailling lists)
+</A><A NAME="5079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Migration of zarb mailling lists
+</A><A NAME="5080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] (no subject)
+</A><A NAME="5081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dicky 516
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005082.html">[Mageia-sysadm] (no subject)
+</A><A NAME="5082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dicky 516
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005083.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005084.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia forums not accessible
+</A><A NAME="5084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005085.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005086.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005087.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005088.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New mailing lists - Got both subscribed and can't be subscribed messages.
+</A><A NAME="5088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005089.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New mailing lists - Got both subscribed and can't be subscribed messages.
+</A><A NAME="5089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005090.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mailing list migration: this list is closing
+</A><A NAME="5090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mageia Sysadmins
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 8 01:20:52 CEST 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Apr 8 01:32:14 CEST 2013</i>
+ <p>
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+ <h1>April 2013 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 1 15:24:24 CEST 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Apr 8 01:20:52 CEST 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 18<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] (no subject)
+</A><A NAME="5081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dicky 516
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005082.html">[Mageia-sysadm] (no subject)
+</A><A NAME="5082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dicky 516
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Calenco notifications (Re: Migration of zarb mailling lists)
+</A><A NAME="5079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005084.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia forums not accessible
+</A><A NAME="5084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="5076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005077.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="5077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="5078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005090.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mailing list migration: this list is closing
+</A><A NAME="5090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mageia Sysadmins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Migration of zarb mailling lists
+</A><A NAME="5080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005089.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New mailing lists - Got both subscribed and can't be subscribed messages.
+</A><A NAME="5089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005088.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New mailing lists - Got both subscribed and can't be subscribed messages.
+</A><A NAME="5088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005083.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005085.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005086.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005087.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005074.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005073.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005075.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 8 01:20:52 CEST 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Apr 8 01:32:14 CEST 2013</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
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+ <ul>
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+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 1 15:24:24 CEST 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Apr 8 01:20:52 CEST 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 18<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01364822664- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005073.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01364822664-01364823453- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005074.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01364822664-01364823453-01364831547- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005075.html">[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...
+</A><A NAME="5075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01364881738- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="5076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01364881738-01364889163- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005077.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="5077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01364881738-01364889163-01364891562- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Rebuild failed on x86_64 for @407096:basesystem-2-12.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="5078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01364995889- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Calenco notifications (Re: Migration of zarb mailling lists)
+</A><A NAME="5079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01364998973- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Migration of zarb mailling lists
+</A><A NAME="5080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01365088066- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] (no subject)
+</A><A NAME="5081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dicky 516
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01365089539- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005082.html">[Mageia-sysadm] (no subject)
+</A><A NAME="5082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dicky 516
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01365165949- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005083.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01365165949-01365182766- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005085.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01365165949-01365182766-01365185378- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005086.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01365165949-01365182766-01365185378-01365190813- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005087.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Postgresql
+</A><A NAME="5087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01365179182- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005084.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia forums not accessible
+</A><A NAME="5084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01365372663- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005088.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New mailing lists - Got both subscribed and can't be subscribed messages.
+</A><A NAME="5088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01365372663-01365372856- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005089.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New mailing lists - Got both subscribed and can't be subscribed messages.
+</A><A NAME="5089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01365376852- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005090.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mailing list migration: this list is closing
+</A><A NAME="5090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mageia Sysadmins
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 8 01:20:52 CEST 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Apr 8 01:32:14 CEST 2013</i>
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