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+ <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] setup package not installed until quite late on...</H1>
+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ <I>Mon Apr 1 15:37:33 CEST 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On 1 April 2013 15:24, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> The setup package contains /etc/group and friends, but when installing a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> chroot, it is not installed until after some packages which require the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> default groups it defines (e.g. sysvinit-legacy-tools requires the tty
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> group yet it is installed before setup.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now here comes the tricky part... As part of the very first transaction
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which includes filesystem and glibc, dash-static is pulled in.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dash-static requires the &quot;mail&quot; group defined by setup package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So really glibc requires dash-static which requires setup which requires
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> glibc and shadow-utils and run-parts...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do we really want to add this loop?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd suggest we should rejig setup to not have a hard require on glibc,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shadow-utils and run-parts but still run it's current scripts if the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> needed binaries/tools are installed (i.e. on package upgrade) and then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rejig dash-static to Require(pre): setup. This should ensure things are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed properly (I think - although not sure how this will affect the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> initial transaction split...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any other/better thoughts?
+</I>
+rewrite glibc scriptlets in lua instead of sh
+See <A HREF="http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/RpmLua">http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/RpmLua</A>
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