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+ <B>Ma&#226;t</B>
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+ <I>Wed Mar 21 20:39:01 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 21/03/2012 17:18, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:57, Romain d'Alverny&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> Steps taken so far (removing one level of indirection):
+</I>&gt;<i> * Sysadmins group:
+</I>&gt;<i> - removed;
+</I>&gt;<i> * Administrators group:
+</I>&gt;<i> - added sysadmin members who have not bee inactive for too long; I
+</I>&gt;<i> still didn't look up full sysadmins list for that, but this can now be
+</I>&gt;<i> managed by them directly;
+</I>&gt;<i> - added boklm as leader;
+</I>&gt;<i> - removed ash who has not been active in the forum and the project
+</I>&gt;<i> for several months;
+</I>&gt;<i> - don't know what to do with forumadmin user (neither what it's for);
+</I>It's the first user created at install: it was used to create the other
+admins with forum-founder bit set up (included yours)
+
+This account should not be used except for crash recovery or things like
+that (login impossible until ldap connexion is disengaged or an matching
+user is created in LDAP directory)
+
+&gt;<i> * Moderators group:
+</I>&gt;<i> - demoted ash from leadership for the same reason.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (as a reminder, this is not going to change at all how forum
+</I>&gt;<i> moderators already operate).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So now:
+</I>&gt;<i> - sysadmin members can organize to manage, update and answer forum
+</I>&gt;<i> admin&amp; moderators, from code to deployment to online config;
+</I>&gt;<i> - it's up to a volunteer to get the forum admin role and coordinate
+</I>&gt;<i> with moderators and sysadmins; s/he will have to be promoted in
+</I>&gt;<i> Administrators and Moderators groups;
+</I>&gt;<i> - all groups, you decide then how you operate for the best.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> r.
+</I>
+There are 2 things that were not adressed :
+
+ * Separation of forum administration on several &quot;roles&quot; which... oh
+ well forget about it... saying it once more will only demoralize
+ me... so let's do as if i did say nothing :-/
+ * Lack of PHP/PHPBB coding skills... Once that solved i'd fear to see
+ mongers and python experts reviewing PHPBB hacks... by the way
+ testing them in a testbed without a copy of the real database...
+ pushing them blindly with git and asking if a sysadmin could find 2
+ minutes to push them on the actives forums... waiting for the
+ mail/whatever notification to click on the interfaces (of each... a
+ chance we have only 2 of them) and run the update process (praying
+ god that everything will go as expected because the rollback given
+ this way of doing things is just something that you don't want to
+ get into)
+
+That's what i already pointed... half an admin... bound and
+distrusted... as useful as the ties allow to be (iow not very much).
+
+(sigh)
+
+--
+Life is magic... or at least it would be if...
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