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(long)</H1> + <B>Thomas Backlund</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20possibility%20to%20add%20a%20package%09in%0A%20basesystem-minimal%3F%20%28long%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4EBAC968.7010709%40mageia.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)">tmb at mageia.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 9 19:41:44 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? 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