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+ <B>dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br</B>
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+<PRE>Thanks guys. :-)
+
+&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 11/10/31 00:42 +0100, D.Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; in order to move to next step, i'd like him to be granted full
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packager
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; rights so he can submit directly on the build-system. i'll still be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; for him if need be.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please test and report any failure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> takashi, it's now up to you! :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> j&#233;r&#244;me
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br</B>
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+<PRE>Hi guys,
+
+I might need a password reset, since I am a privileged user I'd like to
+know how to proceed here.
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+
+thanks in advance.
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 06:48, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I might need a password reset, since I am a privileged user I'd like to
+</I>&gt;<i> know how to proceed here.
+</I>
+Done
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+ <B>dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 06:48, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I might need a password reset, since I am a privileged user I'd like to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> know how to proceed here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done
+</I>
+Worked nicely, Thanks.
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+&gt;<i> dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 8.0b5-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 161228
+</I>&gt;<i> - Remove require in myspell for now
+</I>
+It's impossible to update it to beta6:
+
+[firefox-beta-l10n]$ mgarepo up
+At revision 162725.
+--2011-11-04 12:47:43--
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+2a02:2178:2:7::3
+Connecting to binrepo.mageia.org
+(binrepo.mageia.org)|212.85.158.147|:80... connected.
+HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
+Length: 239272 (234K) [text/plain]
+Saving to: `./SOURCES/ku.xpi'
+
+100%[=============================================================================================================================================&gt;]
+239,272 481K/s in 0.5s
+
+2011-11-04 12:47:44 (481 KB/s) - `./SOURCES/ku.xpi' saved [239272/239272]
+
+error: File with incorrect sha1sum: ./SOURCES/zh-TW.xpi
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+&gt;<i> On 2 November 2011 01:50, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 8.0b5-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 161228
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Remove require in myspell for now
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's impossible to update it to beta6:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [firefox-beta-l10n]$ mgarepo up
+</I>&gt;<i> At revision 162725.
+</I>&gt;<i> --2011-11-04 12:47:43--
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://binrepo.mageia.org//68039cb83c1a40fe1c7570728ed560fe0ace8d5e">http://binrepo.mageia.org//68039cb83c1a40fe1c7570728ed560fe0ace8d5e</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Resolving binrepo.mageia.org (binrepo.mageia.org)... 212.85.158.147,
+</I>&gt;<i> 2a02:2178:2:7::3
+</I>&gt;<i> Connecting to binrepo.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> (binrepo.mageia.org)|212.85.158.147|:80... connected.
+</I>&gt;<i> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
+</I>&gt;<i> Length: 239272 (234K) [text/plain]
+</I>&gt;<i> Saving to: `./SOURCES/ku.xpi'
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 100%[=============================================================================================================================================&gt;]
+</I>&gt;<i> 239,272 481K/s in 0.5s
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011-11-04 12:47:44 (481 KB/s) - `./SOURCES/ku.xpi' saved [239272/239272]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> error: File with incorrect sha1sum: ./SOURCES/zh-TW.xpi
+</I>
+Did you modify the file locally ?
+
+zh-TW.xpi has the right checksum :
+<A HREF="http://binrepo.mageia.org//aac3e48bc4c7167beaad57d7ccd87a16700f5d89">http://binrepo.mageia.org//aac3e48bc4c7167beaad57d7ccd87a16700f5d89</A>
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+&gt;<i> On 28 October 2011 21:11, Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Made some silly typos and now there are wrongly named pkgs in mirrors,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; e.g lib64edata-cal%[edatacalmajor}-3.3.1.1-1.mga2. Things are going to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be fixed after I manage to find some sysadmins, please be patient.. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which shows a bug since it should have been rejected on upload
+</I>
+rpmlint only check unexanded macro, and %[edatacalmajor} is not a valid
+macro, so it is likely th problem.
+
+I guess adding something to prevent upload when the package name is
+outside of some autorized sets.
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 28 octobre 2011 &#224; 23:31 +0200, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 28 October 2011 21:11, Jani V&#228;limaa&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Made some silly typos and now there are wrongly named pkgs in mirrors,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> e.g lib64edata-cal%[edatacalmajor}-3.3.1.1-1.mga2. Things are going to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be fixed after I manage to find some sysadmins, please be patient.. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which shows a bug since it should have been rejected on upload
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmlint only check unexanded macro, and %[edatacalmajor} is not a valid
+</I>&gt;<i> macro, so it is likely th problem.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess adding something to prevent upload when the package name is
+</I>&gt;<i> outside of some autorized sets.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Why not simply check for %
+
+It does not belong in the name.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer skrev 5.11.2011 13:03:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le vendredi 28 octobre 2011 &#224; 23:31 +0200, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 28 October 2011 21:11, Jani V&#228;limaa&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; &#160;wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Made some silly typos and now there are wrongly named pkgs in mirrors,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> e.g lib64edata-cal%[edatacalmajor}-3.3.1.1-1.mga2. Things are going to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be fixed after I manage to find some sysadmins, please be patient.. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Which shows a bug since it should have been rejected on upload
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpmlint only check unexanded macro, and %[edatacalmajor} is not a valid
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> macro, so it is likely th problem.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess adding something to prevent upload when the package name is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> outside of some autorized sets.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not simply check for %
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It does not belong in the name.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What about having an error (and reject upload) for any % in tags
+(especially Provides/Requires/Name) and just a warning for other
+cases?
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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+&gt;<i> nicolas vigier skrev 25.10.2011 12:05:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> X-Spam-Flag: YES
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> X-Spam-Score: 6.457
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> X-Spam-Level: ******
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.457 tag=1 tag2=4.7 kill=4.7
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tests=[ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE=0.1, BAYES_20=-0.001,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> KB_DATE_CONTAINS_TAB=2.751, TAB_IN_FROM=3.507,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> VBOUNCE_MESSAGE=0.1]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> autolearn=no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some people reported similar problem with vger.kernel.org :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6429">https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6429</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest we add:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/attachment.cgi?id=4977&amp;action=diff">https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/attachment.cgi?id=4977&amp;action=diff</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> to our spamassassin then as vger is important server
+</I>
+This seems to be fixed upstream now:
+<A HREF="http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&amp;revision=1190550">http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&amp;revision=1190550</A>
+
+The above change was also distributed via sa-update to my mga1 system
+some days ago, but seems subscribing still doesn't work. Are the
+spamassassin rules of alamut being updated properly?
+
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:06, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why not simply check for %
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It does not belong in the name.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>
+Since when a '%' is invalid in any name/provide/require ?
+
+The probability is low but not null to deny upload of a valid package. I
+already saw a package having files with '%' in their name...
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about having an error (and reject upload) for any % in tags
+</I>&gt;<i> (especially Provides/Requires/Name) and just a warning for other
+</I>&gt;<i> cases?
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> * Pascal Terjan (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">pterjan at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:06, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Why not simply check for %
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; It does not belong in the name.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since when a '%' is invalid in any name/provide/require ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The probability is low but not null to deny upload of a valid package. I
+</I>&gt;<i> already saw a package having files with '%' in their name...
+</I>
+Well that's my point about the files, it's not a problem, and is
+currently rejected.
+I have never seen package having a % in the name or in a provide where
+it was not a packaging error.
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+<PRE>Le samedi 05 novembre 2011 &#224; 13:06 +0200, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer skrev 5.11.2011 13:03:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le vendredi 28 octobre 2011 &#224; 23:31 +0200, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 28 October 2011 21:11, Jani V&#228;limaa&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Made some silly typos and now there are wrongly named pkgs in mirrors,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; e.g lib64edata-cal%[edatacalmajor}-3.3.1.1-1.mga2. Things are going to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; be fixed after I manage to find some sysadmins, please be patient.. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Which shows a bug since it should have been rejected on upload
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rpmlint only check unexanded macro, and %[edatacalmajor} is not a valid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; macro, so it is likely th problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I guess adding something to prevent upload when the package name is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; outside of some autorized sets.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not simply check for %
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It does not belong in the name.
+</I>
+So does # , $, ! or lots of others, hence the proposal for defining a
+set of authorized characters.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 06 novembre 2011 &#224; 22:12 +0100, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> * Pascal Terjan (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">pterjan at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:06, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Why not simply check for %
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; It does not belong in the name.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since when a '%' is invalid in any name/provide/require ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The probability is low but not null to deny upload of a valid package. I
+</I>&gt;<i> already saw a package having files with '%' in their name...
+</I>
+The probability of having this being a breakage is higher, based on the
+dataset composed of last year upload.
+
+And we have exceptions for that ( even if as usual, people will discover
+limitation too late despites mail sent asking for feedback ).
+
+Now, we mush also take in account the list of authorized characters set
+on a unix filesystem. For example, no package could be named
+foo/bar.rpm , among others. And since every package can end on a dvd, we
+also have the issue of naming respecting rockrige, joliet or iso9660
+( already done by a check on filename limitation ).
+
+I am not sure that we want to have a rpm named with weird unicode
+chars.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>Le samedi 05 novembre 2011 &#224; 17:56 +0200, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 25.10.2011 12:09, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nicolas vigier skrev 25.10.2011 12:05:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; X-Spam-Flag: YES
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; X-Spam-Score: 6.457
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; X-Spam-Level: ******
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.457 tag=1 tag2=4.7 kill=4.7
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; tests=[ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE=0.1, BAYES_20=-0.001,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; KB_DATE_CONTAINS_TAB=2.751, TAB_IN_FROM=3.507,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; VBOUNCE_MESSAGE=0.1]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; autolearn=no
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Some people reported similar problem with vger.kernel.org :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6429">https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6429</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I suggest we add:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/attachment.cgi?id=4977&amp;action=diff">https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/attachment.cgi?id=4977&amp;action=diff</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to our spamassassin then as vger is important server
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This seems to be fixed upstream now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&amp;revision=1190550">http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&amp;revision=1190550</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The above change was also distributed via sa-update to my mga1 system
+</I>&gt;<i> some days ago, but seems subscribing still doesn't work. Are the
+</I>&gt;<i> spamassassin rules of alamut being updated properly?
+</I>
+We do not run mga yet on our server, and I recevied a email from
+spamassassin, not sure if I paid attention to it.
+
+Anyway, sa-update run without trouble now, so I guess that's working.
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+<PRE>On 07.11.2011 13:03, Michael Scherer wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le samedi 05 novembre 2011 &#224; 17:56 +0200, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 25.10.2011 12:09, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nicolas vigier skrev 25.10.2011 12:05:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> X-Spam-Flag: YES
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> X-Spam-Score: 6.457
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> X-Spam-Level: ******
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.457 tag=1 tag2=4.7 kill=4.7
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tests=[ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE=0.1, BAYES_20=-0.001,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> KB_DATE_CONTAINS_TAB=2.751, TAB_IN_FROM=3.507,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> VBOUNCE_MESSAGE=0.1]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> autolearn=no
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Some people reported similar problem with vger.kernel.org :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6429">https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6429</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I suggest we add:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/attachment.cgi?id=4977&amp;action=diff">https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/attachment.cgi?id=4977&amp;action=diff</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to our spamassassin then as vger is important server
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This seems to be fixed upstream now:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&amp;revision=1190550">http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&amp;revision=1190550</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The above change was also distributed via sa-update to my mga1 system
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some days ago, but seems subscribing still doesn't work. Are the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> spamassassin rules of alamut being updated properly?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We do not run mga yet on our server, and I recevied a email from
+</I>&gt;<i> spamassassin, not sure if I paid attention to it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, sa-update run without trouble now, so I guess that's working.
+</I>
+Well, I still don't receive any response from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">majordomo at vger.kernel.org.</A>
+
+Can someone look at the log again and/or check if the spamassassin
+configuration under /var/lib/spamassassin contains the above fix?
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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+<PRE>hi,
+
+---------------------------------------------------------------------
+following is quite long, you can skip till the question at the end of
+this mail if you don't want the full background
+---------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+
+back in time, rpm was extracting automatically perl module requirements
+with a (horrible) script trying [0] to parse the shipped perl files to
+find dependencies.
+
+this was not good: when i took ownership of lots of perl modules, my
+scripts or the build on build-system were often failing because of the
+wrong runtime requirements.
+
+perl community was also fighting this problem, and used some meta files
+shipped with the distributions, stating different things such as the
+requirements for the dist. this file is generated by the distribution
+author.
+
+since most perl dists were turning to this scheme [1], i wanted to take
+advantage of this scheme in perl module rpms. therefore i wrote
+perl.req-from-meta which extracts the runtime perl requirements from
+META.yml or META.json if they are present.
+
+of course, i had to update cpanplus::dist::mageia to automatically ship
+META.* files in %doc, and &quot;magpie fix&quot; is now forcing the shipping of
+META files in spec files updated (that is, all packages that are updated).
+
+however, perl community found that it's not the ultimate answer. some
+perl distributions are indeed having some optional requirements, or some
+required dependencies depending on their environment.
+
+eg, a dist may require Win32::API if running on windows, but not on
+other platforms. or some dist may be built by its author on OSX, and
+thus generated META file lists some OSX specific requirements which do
+not apply on other platforms [2]. other examples abund, even if most of
+the dists aren't impacted.
+
+therefore, a solution was found: when configuring the perl distribution,
+before building, testing and installing it, a new file is generated:
+MYMETA.yml / MYMETA.json, which gives the perl dist prerequisites for
+the *current* platform. this file is now used in priority to META.yml /
+META.json by tools such as cpan / cpanp / cpanm.
+
+and i'd like to do the same for mageia, once again. since the MYMETA
+files are using the same schema than META files, the perl.req-from-meta
+script is working fine with them. i also updated rpm-mageia-setup to use
+MYMETA files in priority if they are shipped. [3]
+
+but [4] the problem is that MYMETA are not always generated. &quot;how come?&quot;
+will you say, &quot;you said earlier that they are generated at configure
+time!&quot;. well, in fact, they are generated only when the dist is
+configured with ExtUtils::MakeMaker &gt;= 6.57_07 [5] and currently
+perl-base is providing the following [6]:
+
+ perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) = 6.570_500
+
+(that's 6.57_05 before conversion by %perl_convert_version)
+
+some modules buildrequires a more recent ExtUtils::MakeMaker, and
+therefore perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker (shipping version 6.62) is installed.
+but for all the modules which do not do fancy tricks in configure, no
+MYMETA.yml is generated. :-(
+
+therefore, i cannot blindly ship MYMETA.yml in %doc [7], even if they
+are generated on my system: the build system will simply not generate
+them and the build will fail, stating that MYMETA files are not found.
+
+
+---------------------------------------------------------------------
+end of background / now to the question
+---------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+
+to fix this problem, i can see the following solutions:
+
+** 1. patch our perl to provide a more recent EUMM
+
+this is a no-go from my side. even the perl5 porters aren't updating the
+bundled modules anymore [8], and i don't want to go down that road. so i
+veto this solution with my perl-the-package maintainer hat.
+
+
+** 2. update the buildrequires of all perl modules to require a more
+ recent EUMM
+
+this is a solution that's quite easy to do on my side: i just need to
+update magpie to buildrequire a more recent EUMM if it's using a
+makefile.PL and that no specific EUMM version is wanted. future perls
+(5.16 and onward) will likely ship an updated EUMM, and therefore i'll
+be able to remove this specific requirement in the spec files. but i'm
+wondering if that's not too much, given that it'll need ~1500 [9]
+modules to be updated. and yes, the goal is to have a standard solution
+for all modules, not only the problematic ones.
+
+
+** 3. do nothing, and just deal with the problems manually
+
+this is the solution i adopted till now. but i bump in more and more of
+those exceptions, and this is a burden for me. mageia ships more than
+2500 perl modules, and usually i don't have to really dwelve in the
+details of their updates. but each exception is taking some time from my
+side to deal with, and i fear that the number of problems will just
+continue to rise. so i'm wanting to quit using this &quot;solution&quot;, and find
+a real one. almost as important, it means that finding a real solution
+means we are following cpan evolution step by step, and i think it's a
+Good Thing (tm).
+
+
+** 4. update basesystem-minimal to ship perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker
+
+this way, no need to add a buildrequires for the modules. they all get
+the new build tool, and therefore will generate the MYMETA files.
+
+
+** 5. other solutions?
+
+
+===&gt; what do you say?
+
+
+thanks for reading this far,
+j&#233;r&#244;me
+
+[0] and failing miserably quite often
+[1] which is now mainstream - i don't know of a recent perl dist not
+ a shipping META.yml or META.json file
+[2] this is the case of perl-Sys-Info
+[3] i've updated magpie to use MYMETA for generating buildrequires: but
+ that's another story
+[4] there is always a but
+[5] or Module::Build since a long time, but lots of perl dists still use
+ a Makefile.PL (and this won't slow down given the mere existance of
+ Module::Install - sigh)
+[6] this comes from the ExtUtils::MakeMaker bundled with perl.
+[7] both in cpanplus::dist::mageia and &quot;magpie fix&quot;
+[8] except in the case of a security bug
+[9] around half the perl modules existing in mageia
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+<PRE>Jerome Quelin skrev 9.11.2011 13:41:
+&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> following is quite long, you can skip till the question at the end of
+</I>&gt;<i> this mail if you don't want the full background
+</I>&gt;<i> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+(Shouldn't this have been on -dev as it's not a -sysadm issue...)
+
+[...]
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ** 4. update basesystem-minimal to ship perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this way, no need to add a buildrequires for the modules. they all get
+</I>&gt;<i> the new build tool, and therefore will generate the MYMETA files.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So this would add around 9MB of rpm size by adding theese:
+
+perl-Archive-Extract
+perl-Archive-Tar
+perl-CGI
+perl-CPAN-Meta
+perl-CPAN-Meta-YAML
+perl-CPANPLUS
+perl-CPANPLUS-Dist-Build
+perl-Devel-Cover
+perl-Digest-SHA
+perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder
+perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-Coverage
+perl-FCGI
+perl-IPC-Cmd
+perl-JSON-PP
+perl-Module-Build
+perl-Module-CoreList
+perl-Module-Metadata
+perl-Module-Signature
+perl-Object-Accessor
+perl-Parse-CPAN-Meta
+perl-Perl-OSType
+perl-Time-Piece
+perl-Version-Requirements
+perl-version
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+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> (Shouldn't this have been on -dev as it's not a -sysadm issue...)
+</I>
+well, it's more impacting build system rather than development, but if
+you prefer, i can forward to -dev.
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;** 4. update basesystem-minimal to ship perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;this way, no need to add a buildrequires for the modules. they all get
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;the new build tool, and therefore will generate the MYMETA files.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So this would add around 9MB of rpm size by adding theese:
+</I>
+wow. i did not considered this (which is also why i sent to -sysadm).
+said like this, it might be that option &quot;add a buildrequires&quot; would be
+better - isn't it?
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> to fix this problem, i can see the following solutions:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ** 1. patch our perl to provide a more recent EUMM
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this is a no-go from my side. even the perl5 porters aren't updating the
+</I>&gt;<i> bundled modules anymore [8], and i don't want to go down that road. so i
+</I>&gt;<i> veto this solution with my perl-the-package maintainer hat.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ** 2. update the buildrequires of all perl modules to require a more
+</I>&gt;<i> recent EUMM
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this is a solution that's quite easy to do on my side: i just need to
+</I>&gt;<i> update magpie to buildrequire a more recent EUMM if it's using a
+</I>&gt;<i> makefile.PL and that no specific EUMM version is wanted. future perls
+</I>&gt;<i> (5.16 and onward) will likely ship an updated EUMM, and therefore i'll
+</I>&gt;<i> be able to remove this specific requirement in the spec files. but i'm
+</I>&gt;<i> wondering if that's not too much, given that it'll need ~1500 [9]
+</I>&gt;<i> modules to be updated. and yes, the goal is to have a standard solution
+</I>&gt;<i> for all modules, not only the problematic ones.
+</I>
+If it's planned to have in the futur other dependencies like this or rpm
+macros to build perl packages, you can also create a new package
+perl-rpmbuild with a require on EUMM (and other required packages to
+build perl packages, if needed), with perl-rpmbuild added as buildrequire
+on all perl packages.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ** 3. do nothing, and just deal with the problems manually
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this is the solution i adopted till now. but i bump in more and more of
+</I>&gt;<i> those exceptions, and this is a burden for me. mageia ships more than
+</I>&gt;<i> 2500 perl modules, and usually i don't have to really dwelve in the
+</I>&gt;<i> details of their updates. but each exception is taking some time from my
+</I>&gt;<i> side to deal with, and i fear that the number of problems will just
+</I>&gt;<i> continue to rise. so i'm wanting to quit using this &quot;solution&quot;, and find
+</I>&gt;<i> a real one. almost as important, it means that finding a real solution
+</I>&gt;<i> means we are following cpan evolution step by step, and i think it's a
+</I>&gt;<i> Good Thing (tm).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ** 4. update basesystem-minimal to ship perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this way, no need to add a buildrequires for the modules. they all get
+</I>&gt;<i> the new build tool, and therefore will generate the MYMETA files.
+</I>
+Maybe adding this require to rpm-build instead of basesystem-minimal
+would be enough.
+
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+&gt;<i> On 11/11/09 19:20 +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (Shouldn't this have been on -dev as it's not a -sysadm issue...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> well, it's more impacting build system rather than development, but if
+</I>&gt;<i> you prefer, i can forward to -dev.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well, anything changing basesystem-minimal impacts all. iurt chroots,
+endusers, what ends up on isos, and so on...
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ** 4. update basesystem-minimal to ship perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this way, no need to add a buildrequires for the modules. they all get
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the new build tool, and therefore will generate the MYMETA files.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So this would add around 9MB of rpm size by adding theese:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> wow. i did not considered this (which is also why i sent to -sysadm).
+</I>&gt;<i> said like this, it might be that option &quot;add a buildrequires&quot; would be
+</I>&gt;<i> better - isn't it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well, I didn't check how many of those rpms end up on an normal install,
+or on the isos so the &quot;real&quot; impact might be smaller.
+
+--
+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to fix this problem, i can see the following solutions:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ** 1. patch our perl to provide a more recent EUMM
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is a no-go from my side. even the perl5 porters aren't updating the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bundled modules anymore [8], and i don't want to go down that road. so i
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> veto this solution with my perl-the-package maintainer hat.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ** 2. update the buildrequires of all perl modules to require a more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recent EUMM
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is a solution that's quite easy to do on my side: i just need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> update magpie to buildrequire a more recent EUMM if it's using a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> makefile.PL and that no specific EUMM version is wanted. future perls
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (5.16 and onward) will likely ship an updated EUMM, and therefore i'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be able to remove this specific requirement in the spec files. but i'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wondering if that's not too much, given that it'll need ~1500 [9]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> modules to be updated. and yes, the goal is to have a standard solution
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for all modules, not only the problematic ones.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it's planned to have in the futur other dependencies like this or rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> macros to build perl packages, you can also create a new package
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-rpmbuild with a require on EUMM (and other required packages to
+</I>&gt;<i> build perl packages, if needed), with perl-rpmbuild added as buildrequire
+</I>&gt;<i> on all perl packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well, having to change only one package instead of all would probably
+be nicer if possible.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ** 3. do nothing, and just deal with the problems manually
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is the solution i adopted till now. but i bump in more and more of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> those exceptions, and this is a burden for me. mageia ships more than
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2500 perl modules, and usually i don't have to really dwelve in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> details of their updates. but each exception is taking some time from my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> side to deal with, and i fear that the number of problems will just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> continue to rise. so i'm wanting to quit using this &quot;solution&quot;, and find
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a real one. almost as important, it means that finding a real solution
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> means we are following cpan evolution step by step, and i think it's a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Good Thing (tm).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ** 4. update basesystem-minimal to ship perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this way, no need to add a buildrequires for the modules. they all get
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the new build tool, and therefore will generate the MYMETA files.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe adding this require to rpm-build instead of basesystem-minimal
+</I>&gt;<i> would be enough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That would make it more in line for only building rpms, or add it to
+iurt if we want to ensure it &quot;only&quot; the bs ...
+
+Of course we probably will get complaints on &quot;bloating&quot; rpmbuild or iurt
+then :)
+
+Or do we have to ensure it ends up on all systems that are used for perl
+development? should it then be pulled in by some perl-*
+
+I see basesystem-minimal pulls only:
+perl-File-Sync
+perl-MDK-Common
+perl-WWW-Curl
+perl-base
+
+do we have some perl-* package that is required for all perl developers,
+but that is not some of the above?
+
+--
+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> I see basesystem-minimal pulls only:
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-File-Sync
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-MDK-Common
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-WWW-Curl
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-base
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> do we have some perl-* package that is required for all perl developers,
+</I>&gt;<i> but that is not some of the above?
+</I>
+plenty - but that's another discussion. i mean, programming is perl is
+mainly assembling lots of cpan packages to achieve what you want to do.
+on my machine, i have installed all perl modules, and i think i'm using
+around ~70% of them (either directly or through dependencies).
+
+so this is not the right question to ask.
+
+the question is: do you think adding perl-EUMM to basesystem is sthg
+that can be done, or has it too much impact?
+
+- if it has too much impact, then i will update magpie to add the
+ requires on each and every package. it's not a big deal on my side, it
+ will just mean that a lot of packages will be impacted.
+
+- if it can be done, then it'll be easier on the packages history.
+
+so, measuring the impact is the key here. if that's bloating the bs, the
+installer, whatever that i don't know which relies on basesystem, then
+i'll update magpie. if the impact is light and won't be seen, then it
+makes sense to do it on basesystem.
+
+regards,
+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+&gt;<i> If it's planned to have in the futur other dependencies like this or rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> macros to build perl packages, you can also create a new package
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-rpmbuild with a require on EUMM (and other required packages to
+</I>&gt;<i> build perl packages, if needed), with perl-rpmbuild added as buildrequire
+</I>&gt;<i> on all perl packages.
+</I>
+i don't think there'll be other such modules, so i'd say no need to
+create yet another package.
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+&gt;<i> On 11/11/09 20:41 +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I see basesystem-minimal pulls only:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> perl-File-Sync
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> perl-MDK-Common
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> perl-WWW-Curl
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> perl-base
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do we have some perl-* package that is required for all perl developers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but that is not some of the above?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> plenty - but that's another discussion. i mean, programming is perl is
+</I>&gt;<i> mainly assembling lots of cpan packages to achieve what you want to do.
+</I>&gt;<i> on my machine, i have installed all perl modules, and i think i'm using
+</I>&gt;<i> around ~70% of them (either directly or through dependencies).
+</I>
+I think this is actually the discussion.
+
+basesystem-minimal is for things that are needed by any user creating
+the smallest possible chroot and we try to limit what is required
+(hence the name).
+
+If you only want to be sure it is available when building any rpm,
+rpm-build is probably a good place
+
+If this is required for some scripts in rpm-mageia-setup or
+rpm-mageia-setup-build to work correctly, the dependency should
+probably be there
+
+If you want it to be installed whenever you build a perl package, the
+dependency should be on something which will always be installed when
+building a perl-package (rpm-build will be, but it's better if you can
+find something more specific)
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+&gt;<i> On 07.11.2011 13:03, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We do not run mga yet on our server, and I recevied a email from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; spamassassin, not sure if I paid attention to it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Anyway, sa-update run without trouble now, so I guess that's working.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I still don't receive any response from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">majordomo at vger.kernel.org.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can someone look at the log again and/or check if the spamassassin
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration under /var/lib/spamassassin contains the above fix?
+</I>
+We do.
+
+i restarted spamd and amavis, so maybe that was the problem ?
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+<PRE>On 10.11.2011 20:28, Michael Scherer wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 07 novembre 2011 &#224; 21:51 +0200, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 07.11.2011 13:03, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We do not run mga yet on our server, and I recevied a email from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> spamassassin, not sure if I paid attention to it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway, sa-update run without trouble now, so I guess that's working.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, I still don't receive any response from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">majordomo at vger.kernel.org.</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can someone look at the log again and/or check if the spamassassin
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configuration under /var/lib/spamassassin contains the above fix?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We do.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i restarted spamd and amavis, so maybe that was the problem ?
+</I>
+Seems to work now, thanks.
+
+--
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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+
+I can think of some improvements to the update announcements:
+
+&quot;Must-have&quot;:
+- Affected distribution
+- Updated package version-release (and probably names as well)
+
+&quot;Nice-to-have&quot;:
+- Unnecessary duplication in Subject line, drop the
+ &quot;Package update: &quot; part since it already has &quot;[updates-announce]&quot;.
+- Information footer (at least mailing list info, maybe something else)
+- Some kind of ID even without a real advisory database (other than
+ mailing list archives, and some way to prevent duplicate ids by
+ mistake), so that we can be included in pages like
+ <A HREF="http://lwn.net/Alerts/">http://lwn.net/Alerts/</A>
+ I suggest format 'MGASA-2011-1' for security updates.
+ For other updates, maybe 'MGAA-2011-1', or 'MGAUA-2011-1'.
+
+&quot;Maybe?&quot;:
+- [mageia-updates] instead of [updates-announce]
+
+
+For example:
+
+Subject: [mageia-updates] MGASA-2011-1: libpng
+________________________________________________________________________
+
+ Mageia Security Advisory MGASA-2011-1
+
+ Distribution: Mageia 1
+ Package: libpng
+________________________________________________________________________
+
+Several vulnerabilities were discovered and corrected in libpng:
+
+* All released versions of libpng (from 1.0 onward) have a buffer
+ overrun in the code that promotes palette images with transparency
+ (1 channel) to grayscale+alpha images (2 channels), but only for
+ applications that call png_rgb_to_gray() and not png_set_expand().
+ (None are known.) An arbitrary amount of memory may be overwritten
+ in this case, with arbitrary (attacker-controlled) data.
+ This vulnerability has been assigned ID CVE-2011-2690.
+
+* libpng 1.2.20 and later crashes in png_default_error() due to internal
+ use of a NULL pointer instead of the empty string (&quot;&quot;). This
+ vulnerability
+ has been assigned ID CVE-2011-2691.
+
+* Many (most?) versions of libpng read uninitialized memory when
+ handling
+ empty sCAL chunks, and they handle malformed sCAL chunks (those
+ lacking
+ a delimiting NULL between the internal strings) incorrectly.
+ This vulnerability has been assigned ID CVE-2011-2692.
+
+The updated packages have been updated to latest stable version to
+correct these issues, plus other bug fixes.
+________________________________________________________________________
+
+Updated packages: (or maybe only src package name + versions, to keep
+ it shorter for e.g. tb/firefox updates?)
+
+Mageia 1, i586:
+ libpng3-1.2.46-1.mga1.i586.rpm
+ libpng-devel-1.2.46-1.mga1.i586.rpm
+ libpng-source-1.2.46-1.mga1.i586.rpm
+ libpng-static-devel-1.2.46-1.mga1.i586.rpm
+
+Mageia 1, x86_64:
+ lib64png3-1.2.46-1.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+ lib64png-devel-1.2.46-1.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+ lib64png-static-devel-1.2.46-1.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+ libpng-source-1.2.46-1.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+
+--
+mageia-updates mailing list.
+To unsubscribe, blablabla.
+
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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+ <B>Jerome Quelin</B>
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+<PRE>On 11/11/10 18:42 +0100, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; do we have some perl-* package that is required for all perl developers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; but that is not some of the above?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; plenty - but that's another discussion. i mean, programming is perl is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mainly assembling lots of cpan packages to achieve what you want to do.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on my machine, i have installed all perl modules, and i think i'm using
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; around ~70% of them (either directly or through dependencies).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this is actually the discussion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> basesystem-minimal is for things that are needed by any user creating
+</I>&gt;<i> the smallest possible chroot and we try to limit what is required
+</I>&gt;<i> (hence the name).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you only want to be sure it is available when building any rpm,
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm-build is probably a good place
+</I>
+makes sense. i wasn't aware of all the things related to rpm.
+
+
+&gt;<i> If this is required for some scripts in rpm-mageia-setup or
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm-mageia-setup-build to work correctly, the dependency should
+</I>&gt;<i> probably be there
+</I>
+nope, that's not the case.
+
+
+&gt;<i> If you want it to be installed whenever you build a perl package, the
+</I>&gt;<i> dependency should be on something which will always be installed when
+</I>&gt;<i> building a perl-package (rpm-build will be, but it's better if you can
+</I>&gt;<i> find something more specific)
+</I>
+maybe it can be added to perl package - but rpm-build seems more
+logical.
+
+do we have a consensus here? should i proceed and add a minimum version
+of perl(EUMM) in rpm-build?
+
+thanks for the insight,
+j&#233;r&#244;me
+</PRE>
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+Error: Running 'chown ldap:ldap /var/lib/ldap/backup/tmp/dc_mageia_dc_org-24274/id2entry.bdb' returned 1
+Error: Error count for /var/lib/ldap was 1
+Fatal: Backup failed
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+<PRE>On 11/11/11 10:46 +0100, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; If you only want to be sure it is available when building any rpm,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rpm-build is probably a good place
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> makes sense. i wasn't aware of all the things related to rpm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If you want it to be installed whenever you build a perl package, the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dependency should be on something which will always be installed when
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; building a perl-package (rpm-build will be, but it's better if you can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; find something more specific)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe it can be added to perl package - but rpm-build seems more
+</I>&gt;<i> logical.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> do we have a consensus here? should i proceed and add a minimum version
+</I>&gt;<i> of perl(EUMM) in rpm-build?
+</I>
+nobody objected, so i proceeded and just submitted a new rpm which
+requires a recent perl(EUMM) in rpm-build.
+
+thanks for the pointers,
+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+
+LpSolit provided us a patch to port the wizard of bug creation to
+bugzilla 4 so we are closer to an update.
+
+Is it possible to setup a test VM with a bugzilla4 setup ? this will
+allow us to test migration ( db migration mainly ) and test that the
+wizard works OK and that we can report bugs, work on existing ones,
+...
+
+
+D Morgan.
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+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can think of some improvements to the update announcements:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Must-have&quot;:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Affected distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> - Updated package version-release (and probably names as well)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Nice-to-have&quot;:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Unnecessary duplication in Subject line, drop the
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&quot;Package update: &quot; part since it already has &quot;[updates-announce]&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> - Information footer (at least mailing list info, maybe something else)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Some kind of ID even without a real advisory database (other than
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;mailing list archives, and some way to prevent duplicate ids by
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;mistake), so that we can be included in pages like
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;<A HREF="http://lwn.net/Alerts/">http://lwn.net/Alerts/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;I suggest format 'MGASA-2011-1' for security updates.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;For other updates, maybe 'MGAA-2011-1', or 'MGAUA-2011-1'.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Maybe?&quot;:
+</I>&gt;<i> - [mageia-updates] instead of [updates-announce]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For example:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [mageia-updates] MGASA-2011-1: libpng
+</I>&gt;<i> ________________________________________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;Mageia Security Advisory &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;MGASA-2011-1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;Distribution: Mageia 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;Package: libpng
+</I>&gt;<i> ________________________________________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Several vulnerabilities were discovered and corrected in libpng:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * All released versions of libpng (from 1.0 onward) have a buffer
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;overrun in the code that promotes palette images with transparency
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(1 channel) to grayscale+alpha images (2 channels), but only for
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;applications that call png_rgb_to_gray() and not png_set_expand().
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(None are known.) An arbitrary amount of memory may be overwritten
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;in this case, with arbitrary (attacker-controlled) data.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;This vulnerability has been assigned ID CVE-2011-2690.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * libpng 1.2.20 and later crashes in png_default_error() due to internal
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;use of a NULL pointer instead of the empty string (&quot;&quot;). This
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;vulnerability
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;has been assigned ID CVE-2011-2691.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Many (most?) versions of libpng read uninitialized memory when
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;handling
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;empty sCAL chunks, and they handle malformed sCAL chunks (those
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;lacking
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;a delimiting NULL between the internal strings) incorrectly.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;This vulnerability has been assigned ID CVE-2011-2692.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The updated packages have been updated to latest stable version to
+</I>&gt;<i> correct these issues, plus other bug fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> ________________________________________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Updated packages: (or maybe only src package name + versions, to keep
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; it shorter for e.g. tb/firefox updates?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1, i586:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; libpng3-1.2.46-1.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; libpng-devel-1.2.46-1.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; libpng-source-1.2.46-1.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; libpng-static-devel-1.2.46-1.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1, x86_64:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; lib64png3-1.2.46-1.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; lib64png-devel-1.2.46-1.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; lib64png-static-devel-1.2.46-1.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; libpng-source-1.2.46-1.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-updates mailing list.
+</I>&gt;<i> To unsubscribe, blablabla.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+For me this is the perfect format we should reach.
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+<PRE>Le mardi 15 novembre 2011 &#224; 06:56 +0100, D.Morgan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LpSolit provided us a patch to port the wizard of bug creation to
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla 4 so we are closer to an update.
+</I>
+Hu ?
+
+Since when was this blocking ?
+
+&gt;<i> Is it possible to setup a test VM with a bugzilla4 setup ? this will
+</I>&gt;<i> allow us to test migration ( db migration mainly ) and test that the
+</I>&gt;<i> wizard works OK and that we can report bugs, work on existing ones,
+</I>
+Just setup the vm on a computer you own, and do the test ? I fail to
+understand the issue. If not, just use virt-manager to rabbit, and do
+the vm here. You can use virt-install if you want to install a server
+( see what I did for viviane.sh for a example on how to integrate it
+with auto installer ).
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/updates_testing%0A%09mesa-7.11.1-1.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtZiKVX%3DeVXcSvdJ4csWufGQ3B---0SW%3DT7Qn_4tSu0-OA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+ <I>Fri Nov 18 08:51:03 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 18 November 2011 07:55, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> fwang &lt;fwang&gt; 7.11.1-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 168659
+</I>&gt;<i> - new version 7.11.1
+</I>
+That was a mistake.
+Please remove core/updates_testing/*7.11*
+Thanjs
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release module-init-tools-3.16-8.mga2">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com
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+ <I>Tue Nov 22 09:18:42 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 21 November 2011 19:54, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 3.16-8.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 170597
+</I>&gt;<i> + rebuild (emptylog)
+</I>
+This never landed on mirrors and built time is bogus:
+
+13 hours ago tv module-init-tools-3.16-8.mga2 cauldron
+ core/release uploaded 15300 days
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%0A%09core/release%20module-init-tools-3.16-8.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3C4ECB65CD.9070703%40mageia.org%3E"
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+<PRE>Thierry Vignaud skrev 22.11.2011 10:18:
+&gt;<i> On 21 November 2011 19:54, Mageia Team&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tv&lt;tv&gt; 3.16-8.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 170597
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + rebuild (emptylog)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This never landed on mirrors and built time is bogus:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 13 hours ago tv module-init-tools-3.16-8.mga2 cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> core/release uploaded 15300 days
+</I>
+I've bumped rel and resubmitted it.
+
+--
+Thomas
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Remove%20pinot-deskbar%20from%20the%20repos&In-Reply-To=%3C2559643.NQrdm6egpQ%40beteigeuze.oli-home%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Remove pinot-deskbar from the repos">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+as pinot-deskbar depends on a no longer developed GNOME2 tool, the new pinot
+versions don't longer provide it.
+Could you please remove pinot-deskbar from the repos?
+
+Thanks,
+
+Oliver
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+<LI><A HREF="004066.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="004076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="004079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="004080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
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+</A><A NAME="4061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004062.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Need a password reset
+</A><A NAME="4062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004088.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cron &lt;root at krampouezh&gt; nice -n 19 run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
+</A><A NAME="4088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cron Daemon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004063.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release firefox-beta-l10n-8.0b5-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004064.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release firefox-beta-l10n-8.0b5-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004065.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004066.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004071.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004067.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004068.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004069.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004070.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004072.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004073.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004074.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004075.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004077.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004082.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004083.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004084.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004085.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004086.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Improving the mageia-updates@ messages
+</A><A NAME="4086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004087.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004089.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004090.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Test of upgrading to Bugzilla 4
+</A><A NAME="4090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004091.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Improving the mageia-updates@ messages
+</A><A NAME="4091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004092.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Test of upgrading to Bugzilla 4
+</A><A NAME="4092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004093.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/updates_testing mesa-7.11.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004094.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release module-init-tools-3.16-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004095.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release module-init-tools-3.16-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004096.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Remove pinot-deskbar from the repos
+</A><A NAME="4096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Nov 28 15:13:17 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Nov 28 15:13:29 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
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+ <h1>November 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Nov 2 06:29:50 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Nov 28 15:13:17 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 38<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004064.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release firefox-beta-l10n-8.0b5-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004063.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release firefox-beta-l10n-8.0b5-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004094.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release module-init-tools-3.16-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004093.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/updates_testing mesa-7.11.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004069.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004072.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004095.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release module-init-tools-3.16-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004065.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004066.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004071.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004067.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004070.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004088.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cron &lt;root at krampouezh&gt; nice -n 19 run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
+</A><A NAME="4088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cron Daemon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004086.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Improving the mageia-updates@ messages
+</A><A NAME="4086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004091.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Improving the mageia-updates@ messages
+</A><A NAME="4091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004060.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Need a password reset
+</A><A NAME="4060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004061.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Need a password reset
+</A><A NAME="4061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004062.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Need a password reset
+</A><A NAME="4062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004082.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004075.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004077.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004083.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004087.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004089.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004059.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004096.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Remove pinot-deskbar from the repos
+</A><A NAME="4096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004090.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Test of upgrading to Bugzilla 4
+</A><A NAME="4090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004092.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Test of upgrading to Bugzilla 4
+</A><A NAME="4092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004068.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004073.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004074.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004084.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004085.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Nov 28 15:13:17 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Nov 28 15:13:29 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>November 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Nov 2 06:29:50 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Nov 28 15:13:17 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 38<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01320211790- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004059.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01320212921- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004060.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Need a password reset
+</A><A NAME="4060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01320212921-01320225378- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004061.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Need a password reset
+</A><A NAME="4061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01320212921-01320225378-01320225649- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004062.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Need a password reset
+</A><A NAME="4062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>dtokumura at inf.ufpr.br
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01320375727- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004088.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cron &lt;root at krampouezh&gt; nice -n 19 run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
+</A><A NAME="4088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cron Daemon
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01320407397- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004063.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release firefox-beta-l10n-8.0b5-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01320407397-01320414756- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004064.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release firefox-beta-l10n-8.0b5-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01320491038- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004065.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01320491038-01320491190- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004066.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01320491038-01320491190-01320501350- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004071.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01320491038-01320491190-01320502195- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004067.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01320491038-01320491190-01320502195-01320613932- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004069.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01320491038-01320491190-01320502195-01320613932-01320614879- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004070.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01320491038-01320491190-01320502195-01320613932-01320663516- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004072.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01320508599- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004068.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01320508599-01320663821- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004073.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01320508599-01320663821-01320695501- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004074.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01320508599-01320663821-01320695501-01320949716- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004084.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01320508599-01320663821-01320695501-01320949716-01320972337- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004085.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01320838898- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004075.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01320838898-01320859210- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004076.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01320838898-01320859210-01320859417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004077.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01320838898-01320859210-01320859417-01320863288- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01320838898-01320861034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004078.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01320838898-01320861034-01320864104- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01320838898-01320861034-01320864104-01320910599- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004081.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01320838898-01320861034-01320864104-01320910599-01320946922- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004083.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01320838898-01320861034-01320864104-01320910599-01320946922-01321004793- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004087.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01320838898-01320861034-01320864104-01320910599-01320946922-01321004793-01321281085- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004089.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01320838898-01320861034-01320910660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004082.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long)
+</A><A NAME="4082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01320974894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004086.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Improving the mageia-updates@ messages
+</A><A NAME="4086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01320974894-01321338356- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004091.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Improving the mageia-updates@ messages
+</A><A NAME="4091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01321336596- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004090.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Test of upgrading to Bugzilla 4
+</A><A NAME="4090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01321336596-01321339826- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004092.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Test of upgrading to Bugzilla 4
+</A><A NAME="4092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01321602663- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004093.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/updates_testing mesa-7.11.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01321949922- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004094.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release module-init-tools-3.16-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01321949922-01321952717- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004095.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release module-init-tools-3.16-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01322489597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004096.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Remove pinot-deskbar from the repos
+</A><A NAME="4096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Nov 28 15:13:17 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Nov 28 15:13:29 CET 2011</i>
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