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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Thu Mar 31 14:02:39 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 31 mars 2011 &#224; 12:38 +0200, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can we create <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">qateam at mageia.org</A> as a new ML to mange QA guys, tasks
+</I>&gt;<i> and requests?
+</I>
+I would prefer that nothing is created on mailman now that sympa is
+there.
+
+So that would be @ml.mageia.org
+
+For the name, well, I am not much satisfied with qateam, as I find this
+to be quite non descriptive for people who are not previous mandriva
+people ( ie for almost everybody except a few ).
+So I am sure that we can find a better and more descriptive name, or at
+least try to find a better one.
+
+&gt;<i> This ML can be public for now as we don't have security bug fix
+</I>&gt;<i> request for the moment.
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps we should put it private after the Mageia 1 release.
+</I>
+I am not keen on adding private list without very good reason, as this
+will just make thing more complex :
+- people do not know what happen ( -&gt; lack of communication )
+- people who want to join team cannot gather information ( -&gt; lack of
+participation because they do not know how thing go )
+
+Moreover, if there is really secret informations, private lists sent in
+clear text seems like placing a safe lock on a wood box.
+
+Properly managing security issues would also require to have likely more
+stringent procedures to decide who can read the email if they are
+private ( thus more bureaucracy, and so less participation ).
+
+And finally, the way we manage security would be handled by the security
+team, and it is not started yet.
+
+To me, the price is quite high in the long term, even if we do not
+figure at a glance ( for example, the lack of community participation to
+the QA process at Mandriva could have been exacerbated by such secrecy
+requirement ).
+
+&gt;<i> Please add me as the admin of this ML for now.
+</I>
+That's not how this work on the sympa system, all admins are de-facto
+moderators.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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