diff options
Diffstat (limited to 'zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2010-November/000179.html')
| -rw-r--r-- | zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2010-November/000179.html | 140 |
1 files changed, 140 insertions, 0 deletions
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2010-November/000179.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2010-November/000179.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..784618e68 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2010-November/000179.html @@ -0,0 +1,140 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Packages SVN + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Packages%20SVN&In-Reply-To=%3C1288813549.2499.64.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000178.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000180.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Packages SVN</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Packages%20SVN&In-Reply-To=%3C1288813549.2499.64.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Packages SVN">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 3 20:45:49 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Packages SVN +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Packages SVN +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#179">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#179">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#179">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#179">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 18:16 +0100, Olivier Blin a écrit : +><i> Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>> writes: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> >> > If we treat this content like we treat the tarballs, then we could +</I>><i> >> > workaround the problem, no ? +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> How so? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Well, in fact, it depend on what we do not want to include. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > For data ( icones, theme, images ), we can simply put them outside of +</I>><i> > the svn, like we plan to do for tarballs. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The plan is to put tarballs in an additional SVN, right? +</I>><i> We still have to deal with that. +</I> +I tought the plan was to place the tarball outside of a VCS, ie either +download it on demand, or placed in a cache. So we could simply remove +them from the cache when needed. + +Now, maybe I misunderstood the new system, so could you explain what it +will be ? + + +><i> >> > So this would also mean we will import only after having cleaned the +</I>><i> >> > various packages ? +</I>><i> >> > +</I>><i> >> > This mean then that a review must be started ASAP ( in my humble +</I>><i> >> > opinion ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> >> But we should check with the board if we want to go that far. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Sure. But what is exactly the question :) ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do we filter potentially trademarked/copyrighted content in the src +</I>><i> packages before initial import? +</I>><i> Or do we import the whole Mandriva SVN as is to bootstrap? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IHMO, we shouldn't take the risk of hosting Mandriva material, even if +</I>><i> this will slow down the process. +</I> +We would not be more at fault than plf.zarb.org or any mirrors on that +regard ( especially mirrors ). And they could hardly say "using our GPL +software is a violation of our trademark" without being inconsistent on +that matter, and they didn't protect their mark . + +Hence my request for a specialized lawyer for the non visible cases, and +see what would be considered as a fair use based on existing judgement. + +While I agree that we should of course not use the name Mandriva in a +very visible way ( since this is not a method ), having it in the svn +for a non released software is likely less a problem. + +For example, based on the only similar case of people who have been +really sued and lost I can think of ( ie mandrake ), there is still case +where Mandrake word is displayed : +- in bugzilla ( older bugs ) +- in the website html code ( <meta> ) +- in the mail archive, almost everywhere for old archives +( <A HREF="http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2003-01/">http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2003-01/</A> ) +- the FAQ I gave previously ( question 10 ) +- in the changelog of mandriva-theme-Free-1.4.7-2mdv2010.1 +- in the provides and obsoletes of this package +- in the readonly CVS +- in the filename /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_firstime + +and it would also likely be in svn if svn existed at that time, and +would not have been crashed. ( since it is in CVS ) + +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at sisay</A> ~] $ urpmf -i mandrake 2>&1 | wc -l +1652 + +They have likely contacted a lawyer ( at least, I hope so, even if we +cannot be sure ), and based on that decided that this were fair use of +the trademark ( at least, the lawyer of the opposite party did ). + +Or maybe they are just careless or too busy, given the problem in +FAQ :/ + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Packages SVN +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Packages SVN +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#179">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#179">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#179">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#179">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |