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Do you sub to those +</I>><i> lists? +</I> +i sub them quite often, but it's since a lot of time i hear about work on the +wiki but until now i don't see any concrete results (saying this i don't want +to give the fault to developers and systeam, i know they're overloaded). i +didn't manage to speak directly to them to have news, it's for this reason +that i ask to you on this list (also to avoid another loss of time for them) + + +><i> +</I>><i> It's good to listen to what everyone in the community is saying about what +</I>><i> might be done - that's kind of what council is partly about, to get the +</I>><i> transverse communication going between teams. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > 3) completation of <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan</A> +</I>><i> > by marketing team (this should contain only ideas and contributes from +</I>><i> > marketing people) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I *still* think this is too soon. We're really only now beginning to +</I>><i> develop enough as a community to know how we want to present ourselves. +</I> +you're totally wrong. a business plan and a marketing plan are the first things +to be done in EVERY long-term project, we can't attract new users and +developers if it's not clear who we are and where we want to go, and how we +want to go. +><i> +</I>><i> I also don't agree that *only* marketing should make contributions to the +</I>><i> marketing plan - I'd like to see a variety of input, not least to help us +</I>><i> identify our community's feelings about how we'd all like to be presented +</I>><i> and marketed. +</I> +the general contributions should be inserted in the mageia-ideas webiste (?), +the contribution in the action plan is not a list of features, but a list of +key-features that are useful to reach the global goals the project gave to +itself. it must be a work of skilled people (as in the developers team work +skilled people and so on) + +><i> +</I>><i> > 4) add skype to the distro (italian users most wanted feaure) +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As Bradley says, this is probably not the right place to put this! +</I> +this is related to my above thought. this is not only a package request, this +is related to our promises to the users: + +- We will strive for ease of use (Values) +- Have your fully-working system up and running really fast! (for you - +mageia1) +- We can make this better for developers and users. We can be a better place +to nurture open source technologies. +><i> +</I>><i> > 5) rethinking of artwork (i don't like it at all, this should be also a +</I>><i> > work of the marketing team) and the role of marketing team beside dev +</I>><i> > team. (we can force dev team to implement new features? which role do we +</I>><i> > have?) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hey, I don't think force has any place here... 8-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That said, check out the task list on the marcomm wiki page and the draft +</I>><i> Mageia Style document in the Sandbox - I think that kind of covers this +</I>><i> point. We'll be working closely with Artwork, and then with Webteam and +</I>><i> the Discuss list (the whole community, in fact) to come to something that +</I>><i> we're all as happy with as possible for our Visual Brand. As always, the +</I>><i> Board will have the final say. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And Marcello, it would be great to see you on IRC sometime - when on a +</I>><i> Thursday can you make it? +</I> +as i said many times, i study outside my town, and there i have no connections +(and no time) available, because i must prepare my exams... the only time i +was available i got ill, anyway this is not so important because i'm working +on a long-term vision, that doesn't needs frequent meets. +><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Patricia Fraser +</I>><i> on the move +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +cheers, +Marcello +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000404.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000408.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#406">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#406">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#406">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#406">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More information about the Mageia-marketing +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |