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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Michael scherer <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 08:44:00AM +0100, Juergen Harms wrote:<br>
+&gt; I just found this message from Florian Hubold in the cooker mailing list<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;todays update for mandriva-release-common from main/updates from<br>
+&gt; &gt;2010.1 breaks mirrorlist and therefore urpm*-tools altogether<br>
+&gt; &gt;when a placeholder like $RELEASE is used with mirrorlist,<br>
+&gt; &gt;and as this seems to be the default setup, many machines<br>
+&gt; &gt;will be hit by this, effectively disabling package management.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; The server for the Mandriva forums appears to be (already?) broken,<br>
+&gt; no possibility to warn people via that evident way - maybe this copy<br>
+&gt; can help to minimise annoyance.<br>
+<br>
+</div></div>Ok, so I doubt people will listen to me, and I know that you are trying to help,<br>
+but this is mageia-discuss, not mandriva-discuss.<br>
+<br>
+If we start to discuss Mandriva breakage and evolution here, people will not<br>
+really see the 2 community as separate. And if they do not see us as a separate<br>
+community, we will carry the bad reputation of Mandriva for the next 10 years<br>
+because people will think &quot;mageia == mandriva&quot;.<br>
+<br>
+As you surely doubt, reputation is z problem that can be quite hard and long<br>
+to overcome as we learned in the past, and quite damaging for the success of a project<br>
+in the long run. So it<br>
+is better to start now, by simply being fully separate from Mandriva and by doing everything<br>
+we can to make sure we are not seen as a 2nd Mandriva. And this include seeing Mageia<br>
+community as a separate entity, not as another Mandriva users community.<br>
+<br>
+So in the light of this explanation, could people please keep Mandriva related topic<br>
+on Mandriva mailling list ?<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+<font color="#888888">Michael Scherer<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>Considering that most of us here are still using Mandriva, cause there has not been a Mageia release yet, it is important that we know something can be broken in the system we use to work and collaborate to Mageia.<br>
+<br>I do agree that, in the near future, we should focus only in Mageia, but for now we are still in between worlds.<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Diego Bello Carreņo<br><br><br>