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+ +12 +00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,400 +Quite + +13 +00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,000 +It remembers Mandriva, + +14 +00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:34,200 +Mandriva I had left in my head a time when + +15 +00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,000 + there were many financial difficulties, + +16 +00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,000 + it was not well what it was going to give. + +17 +00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,500 + Tell us a little bit what happened + +18 +00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:43,000 +and what made you want + +19 +00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,500 +to create this Mageia fork. + +20 +00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 +This fork Mageia came + +21 +00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,000 +a whole lot of uncertainties that reside in Mandriva, + +22 +00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:57,100 +I was myself employed by a subsidiary of Mandriva. + +23 +00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,000 +It was felt there had been 12 years + +24 +00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,000 +of tremendous work performed on this distribution + +25 +00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,000 +and need to sustain this effort + +26 +00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,000 + and we wanted + +27 +00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,000 +to abstract from the presence a company + +28 +00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,000 +that had high and low economic level + +29 +00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,000 +and we decided to fork, ie + +30 +00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,000 +resume distribution Mandriva Linux + +31 +00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 +one point from a copy simply + +32 +00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,000 +because the license allows + +33 +00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,500 +and assembling a new project from there and only Community + +34 +00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,000 +within an association + +35 +00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 +and the project is called Mageia. + +36 +00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:41,500 +So it's very fashionable because ultimately what you have done, + +37 +00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:44,200 +people from the MySQL community did + +38 +00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,000 +at the time of acquisition by Oracle, + +39 +00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 + they accepted the takeover by Sun, + +40 +00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,500 +they have not accepted the takeover by Oracle. + +41 +00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:52,000 +We learned yesterday that the OpenOffice community + +42 +00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 +was doing the same thing too + +43 +00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,500 +because they do not agree with the direction of Oracle. + +44 +00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:59,000 +So finally for those who do not know + +45 +00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 +where all these terms, a Forking + +46 +00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,500 +is that you can resume the original source code + +47 +00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:06,800 +and create for the moment exactly the same thing, a true copy? + +48 +00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 +Altogether, it does not reinvent the wheel, + +49 +00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:10,100 + since I mentioned earlier, + +50 +00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,000 + we believe many technology integrated + +51 +00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,500 +with Mandriva Linux, + +52 +00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:18,700 + we think it's really a strong point, + +53 +00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:22,000 +but it would work differently + +54 +00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 +in the development of future distribution + +55 +00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,700 +Mageia So it'll be a 1901 association therefore non-profit? + +56 +00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,000 +Quite + +57 +00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 +built around the community, + +58 +00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,400 +developers in fact, + +59 +00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:34,500 + it is community developers + +60 +00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:35,500 +who are members of the association? + +61 +00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:38,000 +Then the members of the association will overlap + +62 +00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 + with the full scope of that affect people + +63 +00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 + directly or indirectly to a distribution. + +64 +00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 +It will be developers, people who are + +65 +00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,000 +packaging software, testers translators, + +66 +00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 +but also because today what users. The strength + +67 +00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 + of a distribution is the ability of its community + +68 +00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 +users to promote the distribution + +69 +00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,000 +so they have a part quite predominant and essential + +70 +00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 +in the association. + +71 +00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 +So it begs the question + +72 +00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 + why an association? + +73 +00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,000 + You think today is the best way + +74 +00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,500 +to work together on a project like this? + +75 +00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,000 +Found that the values of freedom today + +76 +00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:23,000 +are that it can be a little demanding + +77 +00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 +on the necessity of sharing + +78 +00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:28,000 +the sustainability of the software, etc.. + +79 +00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:35,000 +and given the history and challenges of the time, + +80 +00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 +Mandriva has been estimated that a community project + +81 +00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 +was more appropriate and + +82 +00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 +the association is only there to regulate + +83 +00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 +the use of resources organization, so yes there is a + +84 +00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,000 +community project but organized in a lasting way. + +85 +00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:54,000 + At the same time we must live, + +86 +00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 + you were employed by a company + +87 +00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 +that working on Mandriva, + +88 +00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 +you may have wanted to find a job and back wages + +89 +00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 +Yes, it would be nice. + +90 +00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 +It must be that all that great, + +91 +00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,500 +how is what generates the income fully associative structure? + +92 +00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,500 + Then the association is one thing, + +93 +00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:12,100 +it produces a product that Mageia + +94 +00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,000 +which is called a distribution. + +95 +00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 +We can consider a perfectly + +96 +00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,000 + commercial structure that will act in the periphery of the association and + +97 +00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 +will based on the distribution called Mageia and + +98 +00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,000 +will offer a whole lots of service as support, + +99 +00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 + consulting, development, + +100 +00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:32,000 +thereby help the company take this product + +101 +00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,000 +has tremendous community strength + +102 +00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:40,200 +and integrate it into its array of solutions it may have. + +103 +00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,200 +So now you're faced with a number of needs, + +104 +00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,000 +urgent first need we will try to answer them all + +105 +00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 +is to make a bit of noise around Mageia + +106 +00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:50,200 +because nobody knows. + +107 +00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:57,000 +Nobody knows the outdoors in the little world of open source. + +108 +00:04:57,100 --> 00:05:00,000 +I admit that we were very pleasantly surprised + +109 +00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 +by the return because not Mandriva only the present community + +110 +00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 +has reacted to the announcement and acceded + +111 +00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:12,000 +but also because people using Mandrake at the time + +112 +00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 + and returning because he believes + +113 +00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,000 +it is a little more to their expectation that they and their vision + +114 +00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 +of an open source distribution. + +115 +00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 + Be careful what is called the + +116 +00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 +navel syndrome, which that people who know you and + +117 +00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 +you know how difficult it is to ensure that those who do not know + +118 +00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 +you have the reflex to go see Mageia + +119 +00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 +rather because he must say things very clear shot of you + +120 +00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,800 +become a little competition from Mandriva? + +121 +00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,000 +Quite + +122 +00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:39,700 + How is what you do to try to promote this new brand, + +123 +00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,000 +because it costs money as all that? + +124 +00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,000 +Is finally starting very small + +125 +00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,000 +since the initiative was made very short time, + +126 +00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,200 + we launched an appeal for donations + +127 +00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:56,000 +which currently meets extremely well, we had solutions + +128 +00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 +to enable us to host our entire infrastructure, a + +129 +00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:07,000 +nd we will try to sustain it in companies adhering to the association, + +130 +00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:14,000 + and finally it becomes account that there are many users who understand + +131 +00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,500 +that the Free software is not necessarily free and + +132 +00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:20,000 +that I can to support the distribution rather than put a little money + +133 +00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 +every month by example + +134 +00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,000 +since I know that this money will be used so transparent + +135 +00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,000 +and maintaining a number of value. + +136 +00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:32,500 +We have many returns on that front. + +137 +00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,000 + And do you think that you will generate enough money eventually + +138 +00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 +pay people who will permanently work + +139 +00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 +distribution? + +140 +00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:43,000 +Immediate not within the Association, + +141 +00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 +cons in a business structure + +142 +00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 +that offer services can be more traditional + +143 +00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,000 +here we can actually generate income + +144 +00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 +and that income may possibly be + +145 +00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 + used to fund developments + +146 +00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 +additional distribution + +147 +00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:02,000 +Very good transition, is what you have already thought about it + +148 +00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 +should evolve within Mageia that it continues to meet required? + +149 +00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,000 +At the same time Mandriva + +150 +00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 +was in trouble for some time that therefore + +151 +00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 + may be missing a bit of development, + +152 +00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 +is what you want do new things? + +153 +00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,000 +So yes, there are plenty of things we want to do, lots of things. + +154 +00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 +Among others, there is a huge strength is the + +155 +00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:25,000 +control center, the Linux Control Center + +156 +00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 +and now it's to change, + +157 +00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,000 +the rejuvenate because it's true that it is a little older and then + +158 +00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,000 +why not move towards architectures + +159 +00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 +that are increasingly used as shelves for example, + +160 +00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 +and can also switch to + +161 +00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,000 +openness to services like cloud, etc.. + +162 +00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,000 + so all that they are guidelines + +163 +00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,500 + that will define in the coming weeks. + +164 +00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,500 +You have a real functioning associations, participatory? + +165 +00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:55,000 +Quite + +166 +00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 +You will meet regularly? + +167 +00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,500 +While meeting a little bit special as they will because the virtual + +168 +00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:04,400 +community Mageia is international, + +169 +00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:09,500 +ie, it's a lot in Europe, South America, so + +170 +00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:12,000 +in these cases we do can not do real meetings, + +171 +00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:14,000 +the fact remains that these are people who are accustomed + +172 +00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 +to working in that way, remote, + +173 +00:08:16,100 --> 00:08:19,000 +so yes it will meetings, as each interest group, + +174 +00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 +we will have a board to manage the association + +175 +00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,500 +to make a strategic decision, + +176 +00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:27,000 +especially so many communication, perhaps what we missed. + +177 +00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,000 +Okay, we hope to have made our small contribution, + +178 +00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,500 +good luck in this project. + +179 +00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:34,000 +Thank you + +180 +00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:40,200 +We will continue elsewhere if we want to know more the website is + +181 +00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,000 +mageia.org + +182 +00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000 +m-a-g-e-i-a + +183 +00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 +Anne Nicolas, thank you very much. + +184 +00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 + Thanks + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101105/15207286/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101105/15207286/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..96bd306eb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101105/15207286/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,37 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd"> +<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css"> +p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } +</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Sans Serif'; font-size:9pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;"> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Em Terça-feira 02 Novembro 2010, às 16:28:12, Maarten Vanraes escreveu:</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> Op dinsdag 02 november 2010 18:19:45 schreef Olivier Méjean:</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> [...]</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > If i am couragous, i will do an English translation</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> google translate to english:</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> Philippe Nieuwbourg - Hello everyone, welcome to the TV set of open</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> world forum, we will now turn to another topic with our</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> new guest Anne Nicolas,</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Olá! </p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a>I'm sending attached the subtitle translated into <span style=" font-weight:600;">ENGLISH</span>, <a name="result_box"></a>for the video interview with Anne Nicolas.</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a>I used the software "Subtitle Editor 0.36.2" (http://home.gna.org/subtitleeditor/) in Mandriva 2010.1. </p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a><span style=" color:#000000;">W</span><span style=" color:#000000;">ith this file and this software, can be done easily translated into other languages.</span></p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0; color:#000000;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" color:#000000;">There is a wiki (http://kitone.free.fr/subtitleeditor/wiki/doku.php?id=manual:translation) with documentation about how to do a translation with "</span>Subtitle Editor"<span style=" color:#000000;">. </span></p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0; color:#000000;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Using the "Subtitle Editor", y<span style=" color:#000000;">ou open this file with subtitles in english and select the toolbar "view" and "translate". </span></p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0; color:#000000;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" color:#000000;">But I call attention to the need to save the translation in a separate file. This is done in the (toolbar) "File" "save" and "save translation". give a "new name" and "ok".</span></p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0; color:#000000;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Cheers!</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">MacXi</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a>attached file name -->> (Subtitle_Anne-Nicolas_October-2010_english.srt)</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p></body></html>
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101105/15207286/attachment.bin b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101105/15207286/attachment.bin new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9d299b51b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101105/15207286/attachment.bin @@ -0,0 +1,736 @@ +1 +00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 +Paris, oct - 2010 + +2 +00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:10,000 +Hello everyone, welcome to the TV set of Open World Forum + +3 +00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 +We will now turn to another topic with our + +4 +00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,700 +new guest Anne Nicolas, Hello + +5 +00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:15,700 +(Anne Nicolas) Hello + +6 +00:00:15,700 --> 00:00:19,200 +So you work for a community called Mageia + +7 +00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,000 +Absolutely + +8 +00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,400 +But then there are our listeners are saying + +9 +00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:23,000 + "but never heard Mageia speaking, + +10 +00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 +what is it that the promotion of this new thing" + +11 +00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:29,400 +is a Mageia fork of Mandriva? + +12 +00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,400 +Quite + +13 +00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,000 +It remembers Mandriva, + +14 +00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:34,200 +Mandriva I had left in my head a time when + +15 +00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,000 + there were many financial difficulties, + +16 +00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,000 + it was not well what it was going to give. + +17 +00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,500 + Tell us a little bit what happened + +18 +00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:43,000 +and what made you want + +19 +00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,500 +to create this Mageia fork. + +20 +00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 +This fork Mageia came + +21 +00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,000 +a whole lot of uncertainties that reside in Mandriva, + +22 +00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:57,100 +I was myself employed by a subsidiary of Mandriva. + +23 +00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,000 +It was felt there had been 12 years + +24 +00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,000 +of tremendous work performed on this distribution + +25 +00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,000 +and need to sustain this effort + +26 +00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,000 + and we wanted + +27 +00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,000 +to abstract from the presence a company + +28 +00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,000 +that had high and low economic level + +29 +00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,000 +and we decided to fork, ie + +30 +00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,000 +resume distribution Mandriva Linux + +31 +00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 +one point from a copy simply + +32 +00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,000 +because the license allows + +33 +00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,500 +and assembling a new project from there and only Community + +34 +00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,000 +within an association + +35 +00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 +and the project is called Mageia. + +36 +00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:41,500 +So it's very fashionable because ultimately what you have done, + +37 +00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:44,200 +people from the MySQL community did + +38 +00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,000 +at the time of acquisition by Oracle, + +39 +00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 + they accepted the takeover by Sun, + +40 +00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,500 +they have not accepted the takeover by Oracle. + +41 +00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:52,000 +We learned yesterday that the OpenOffice community + +42 +00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 +was doing the same thing too + +43 +00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,500 +because they do not agree with the direction of Oracle. + +44 +00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:59,000 +So finally for those who do not know + +45 +00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 +where all these terms, a Forking + +46 +00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,500 +is that you can resume the original source code + +47 +00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:06,800 +and create for the moment exactly the same thing, a true copy? + +48 +00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 +Altogether, it does not reinvent the wheel, + +49 +00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:10,100 + since I mentioned earlier, + +50 +00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,000 + we believe many technology integrated + +51 +00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,500 +with Mandriva Linux, + +52 +00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:18,700 + we think it's really a strong point, + +53 +00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:22,000 +but it would work differently + +54 +00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 +in the development of future distribution + +55 +00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,700 +Mageia So it'll be a 1901 association therefore non-profit? + +56 +00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,000 +Quite + +57 +00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 +built around the community, + +58 +00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,400 +developers in fact, + +59 +00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:34,500 + it is community developers + +60 +00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:35,500 +who are members of the association? + +61 +00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:38,000 +Then the members of the association will overlap + +62 +00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 + with the full scope of that affect people + +63 +00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 + directly or indirectly to a distribution. + +64 +00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 +It will be developers, people who are + +65 +00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,000 +packaging software, testers translators, + +66 +00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 +but also because today what users. The strength + +67 +00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 + of a distribution is the ability of its community + +68 +00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 +users to promote the distribution + +69 +00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,000 +so they have a part quite predominant and essential + +70 +00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 +in the association. + +71 +00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 +So it begs the question + +72 +00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 + why an association? + +73 +00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,000 + You think today is the best way + +74 +00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,500 +to work together on a project like this? + +75 +00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,000 +Found that the values of freedom today + +76 +00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:23,000 +are that it can be a little demanding + +77 +00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 +on the necessity of sharing + +78 +00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:28,000 +the sustainability of the software, etc.. + +79 +00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:35,000 +and given the history and challenges of the time, + +80 +00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 +Mandriva has been estimated that a community project + +81 +00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 +was more appropriate and + +82 +00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 +the association is only there to regulate + +83 +00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 +the use of resources organization, so yes there is a + +84 +00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,000 +community project but organized in a lasting way. + +85 +00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:54,000 + At the same time we must live, + +86 +00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 + you were employed by a company + +87 +00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 +that working on Mandriva, + +88 +00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 +you may have wanted to find a job and back wages + +89 +00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 +Yes, it would be nice. + +90 +00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 +It must be that all that great, + +91 +00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,500 +how is what generates the income fully associative structure? + +92 +00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,500 + Then the association is one thing, + +93 +00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:12,100 +it produces a product that Mageia + +94 +00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,000 +which is called a distribution. + +95 +00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 +We can consider a perfectly + +96 +00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,000 + commercial structure that will act in the periphery of the association and + +97 +00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 +will based on the distribution called Mageia and + +98 +00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,000 +will offer a whole lots of service as support, + +99 +00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 + consulting, development, + +100 +00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:32,000 +thereby help the company take this product + +101 +00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,000 +has tremendous community strength + +102 +00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:40,200 +and integrate it into its array of solutions it may have. + +103 +00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,200 +So now you're faced with a number of needs, + +104 +00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,000 +urgent first need we will try to answer them all + +105 +00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 +is to make a bit of noise around Mageia + +106 +00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:50,200 +because nobody knows. + +107 +00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:57,000 +Nobody knows the outdoors in the little world of open source. + +108 +00:04:57,100 --> 00:05:00,000 +I admit that we were very pleasantly surprised + +109 +00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 +by the return because not Mandriva only the present community + +110 +00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 +has reacted to the announcement and acceded + +111 +00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:12,000 +but also because people using Mandrake at the time + +112 +00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 + and returning because he believes + +113 +00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,000 +it is a little more to their expectation that they and their vision + +114 +00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 +of an open source distribution. + +115 +00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 + Be careful what is called the + +116 +00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 +navel syndrome, which that people who know you and + +117 +00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 +you know how difficult it is to ensure that those who do not know + +118 +00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 +you have the reflex to go see Mageia + +119 +00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 +rather because he must say things very clear shot of you + +120 +00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,800 +become a little competition from Mandriva? + +121 +00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,000 +Quite + +122 +00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:39,700 + How is what you do to try to promote this new brand, + +123 +00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,000 +because it costs money as all that? + +124 +00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,000 +Is finally starting very small + +125 +00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,000 +since the initiative was made very short time, + +126 +00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,200 + we launched an appeal for donations + +127 +00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:56,000 +which currently meets extremely well, we had solutions + +128 +00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 +to enable us to host our entire infrastructure, a + +129 +00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:07,000 +nd we will try to sustain it in companies adhering to the association, + +130 +00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:14,000 + and finally it becomes account that there are many users who understand + +131 +00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,500 +that the Free software is not necessarily free and + +132 +00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:20,000 +that I can to support the distribution rather than put a little money + +133 +00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 +every month by example + +134 +00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,000 +since I know that this money will be used so transparent + +135 +00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,000 +and maintaining a number of value. + +136 +00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:32,500 +We have many returns on that front. + +137 +00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,000 + And do you think that you will generate enough money eventually + +138 +00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 +pay people who will permanently work + +139 +00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 +distribution? + +140 +00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:43,000 +Immediate not within the Association, + +141 +00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 +cons in a business structure + +142 +00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 +that offer services can be more traditional + +143 +00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,000 +here we can actually generate income + +144 +00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 +and that income may possibly be + +145 +00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 + used to fund developments + +146 +00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 +additional distribution + +147 +00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:02,000 +Very good transition, is what you have already thought about it + +148 +00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 +should evolve within Mageia that it continues to meet required? + +149 +00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,000 +At the same time Mandriva + +150 +00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 +was in trouble for some time that therefore + +151 +00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 + may be missing a bit of development, + +152 +00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 +is what you want do new things? + +153 +00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,000 +So yes, there are plenty of things we want to do, lots of things. + +154 +00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 +Among others, there is a huge strength is the + +155 +00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:25,000 +control center, the Linux Control Center + +156 +00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 +and now it's to change, + +157 +00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,000 +the rejuvenate because it's true that it is a little older and then + +158 +00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,000 +why not move towards architectures + +159 +00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 +that are increasingly used as shelves for example, + +160 +00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 +and can also switch to + +161 +00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,000 +openness to services like cloud, etc.. + +162 +00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,000 + so all that they are guidelines + +163 +00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,500 + that will define in the coming weeks. + +164 +00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,500 +You have a real functioning associations, participatory? + +165 +00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:55,000 +Quite + +166 +00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 +You will meet regularly? + +167 +00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,500 +While meeting a little bit special as they will because the virtual + +168 +00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:04,400 +community Mageia is international, + +169 +00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:09,500 +ie, it's a lot in Europe, South America, so + +170 +00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:12,000 +in these cases we do can not do real meetings, + +171 +00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:14,000 +the fact remains that these are people who are accustomed + +172 +00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 +to working in that way, remote, + +173 +00:08:16,100 --> 00:08:19,000 +so yes it will meetings, as each interest group, + +174 +00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 +we will have a board to manage the association + +175 +00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,500 +to make a strategic decision, + +176 +00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:27,000 +especially so many communication, perhaps what we missed. + +177 +00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,000 +Okay, we hope to have made our small contribution, + +178 +00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,500 +good luck in this project. + +179 +00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:34,000 +Thank you + +180 +00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:40,200 +We will continue elsewhere if we want to know more the website is + +181 +00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,000 +mageia.org + +182 +00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000 +m-a-g-e-i-a + +183 +00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 +Anne Nicolas, thank you very much. + +184 +00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 + Thanks + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101105/15207286/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101105/15207286/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..96bd306eb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101105/15207286/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,37 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd"> +<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css"> +p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } +</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Sans Serif'; font-size:9pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;"> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Em Terça-feira 02 Novembro 2010, às 16:28:12, Maarten Vanraes escreveu:</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> Op dinsdag 02 november 2010 18:19:45 schreef Olivier Méjean:</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> [...]</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > If i am couragous, i will do an English translation</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> google translate to english:</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> Philippe Nieuwbourg - Hello everyone, welcome to the TV set of open</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> world forum, we will now turn to another topic with our</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> new guest Anne Nicolas,</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Olá! </p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a>I'm sending attached the subtitle translated into <span style=" font-weight:600;">ENGLISH</span>, <a name="result_box"></a>for the video interview with Anne Nicolas.</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a>I used the software "Subtitle Editor 0.36.2" (http://home.gna.org/subtitleeditor/) in Mandriva 2010.1. </p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a><span style=" color:#000000;">W</span><span style=" color:#000000;">ith this file and this software, can be done easily translated into other languages.</span></p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0; color:#000000;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" color:#000000;">There is a wiki (http://kitone.free.fr/subtitleeditor/wiki/doku.php?id=manual:translation) with documentation about how to do a translation with "</span>Subtitle Editor"<span style=" color:#000000;">. </span></p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0; color:#000000;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Using the "Subtitle Editor", y<span style=" color:#000000;">ou open this file with subtitles in english and select the toolbar "view" and "translate". </span></p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0; color:#000000;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" color:#000000;">But I call attention to the need to save the translation in a separate file. This is done in the (toolbar) "File" "save" and "save translation". give a "new name" and "ok".</span></p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0; color:#000000;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Cheers!</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">MacXi</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a>attached file name -->> (Subtitle_Anne-Nicolas_October-2010_english.srt)</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p></body></html>
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