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I thought I +</I>>><i> clearly showed that there is a need and that the topic of thei thread +</I>>><i> is to find a solution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The thread is just a request to exclude documentation. IMO the real need +</I>><i> is unclear (not only disk space apparently). If you fulfill every +</I>><i> request right away, you'll end up with a lot of options. Better to +</I>><i> analyse why something is asked and provide that. Gives a better +</I>><i> experience than just another option somewhere. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> > At the moment the only concern seems to be disk space. If that is the +</I>>><i> > only reason, just do it automatically and/or have a special disk space +</I>>><i> > concious section. Fully analysing why to exclude would allow that will +</I>>><i> > ensure it is there when expected, instead of just being an option you +</I>>><i> > have to search for. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> No, disk space is not the only reason but the most prominent. For the +</I>>><i> rest of this paragraph I have no clue what you are talking about. +</I>>><i> Either it's the language barrier or maybe my lack of tech +</I>>><i> understanding. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I mean that is is better to know more than "exclude documentation". That +</I>><i> is just a request, but I don't get why it is made. E.g. if the sole +</I>><i> reason would be to minimize disk space, then the most logical thing is +</I>><i> to include this where disk space is handled. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm not talking technical, but more use cases. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> E.g. yesterday one of my disks was full. I could easily resolve, but +</I>><i> once you understand that one of the reasons for the exclusion of +</I>><i> documentation is disk space, then you can put intelligence to exclude +</I>><i> documentation not only in the Mageia installer, but also in the +</I>><i> notification of not enough disk space (you could have an option to +</I>><i> remove the documentation on disk). Similarly, if I move to a bigger +</I>><i> disk, I might want to easily reinstall the documentation that was +</I>><i> manually removed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now if the only possibility to exclude documentation was in the Mageia +</I>><i> installer, then such an installer option doesn't really help when you +</I>><i> lack disk space later on. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hope you're getting what I am after. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Btw: I am not trying to do anything near "stop energy", just want to +</I>><i> understand the use case better. The "why" is what I am after. +</I> +Yes, I see, thx for clarification. + +Now, we have several use cases here: + +1 - disk is small (I have a netbook with a 4Gb SSD), I don't want to +waste space for ballast. +2 - disk is small, I don't want to waste space for ballast but I want +some handbooks and/or some documentation (meaning I can mark the +handbook I want and leave out all others) +3 - disk space is no issue but I do not want to bloat the installation +and only want the software installed which I really use. +4 - disk space is no issue but I want to save download ressources when +doing updates with rpmdrake (where you can't just say '--no-suggests') +5 - disk space becomes an issue later so I want to remove all the +handbooks with rpmdrake but not the applications themselves. And I +don't want to go 'rpm -e -nodeps' for each and every single handbook + +I am sure there are more use cases, for me the need for a small +installation was the small SSD in the netbook but I also think as #3 + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006975.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006977.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6976">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6976">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6976">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6976">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |