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Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they should be +</I>>>>><i> >  installed, and shouldn't be removed. A kde install without handbooks +</I>>>>><i> > is a +</I>>>>><i> >  damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will continue +</I>>>>><i> > to +</I>>>>><i> >  work on handbooks if each distrib don't install its work? +</I>>>>><i> >  That's why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component +</I>>>>><i> > should +</I>>>>><i> >  *requires*  its handbook (but probably it won't work with LiveCD). +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I don't agree. You seem to first take for granted that a user of the +</I>>>><i> KDE desktop also uses all the applications and second you mistake +</I>>>><i> "good to have" for "must have". I'm using KDE but only few KDE +</I>>>><i> applications - so why do I need a handbook for kppp or knode or kmail +</I>>>><i> when I don't even install these applications? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I agree, and that's why I said "each component should requires its +</I>>><i> handbook", meaning kdebase4-workspace requires kdebase4-workspace-handbooks, +</I>>><i> kmail requires kmail-handbook, ... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Currently, each component suggests its handbook (needed for LiveCD). +</I>>><i> If we use only suggests for handbooks, the handbooks are missing on DVD +</I>>><i> iso (because DVD iso doesn't include suggests), so that handbooks are never +</I>>><i> installed with a DVD install, and all the kde docs will be missing by +</I>>><i> default. +</I>>><i> For now, I don't have a perfect solution to this problem. +</I>>><i> To workaround this, I added a task-kde4-handbooks that REQUIRES the +</I>>><i> handbooks for kde's components that are installed by a default mageia kde +</I>>><i> install. I know that it's not perfect. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I'm open to a better solution, but I really want to avoid that the +</I>>><i> handbooks are not installed on most of mageia's install. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> regards, +</I>>><i> Luc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A suggestion from a non-kde user. +</I>><i> Why not put task-kde4-handbooks on the dvd, but not have it required by kde +</I>><i> ? +</I>><i> That way, selecting kde (without selecting task-kde4-handbooks) won't pull +</I>><i> in all handbooks, only those required by the kde packages actually +</I>><i> installed. +</I> +That's only half the solution. Example: I install kcalc or a simple +KDE patience game - why do I want to have the handbooks? So, ok, if +DVD does not include suggests and to avoid letting users pull the +handbook from the net after system installation, then at least it must +be possible to uninstall handbooks no matter if the matching +application is installed or not. + +Meaning, without knowing the technical solution: if it is unavoidable +to get the handbooks installed by dependency I still expect to be able +to easily uninstall every handbook I want without having to use 'rpm +-e --nodeps' on each one. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006870.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6871">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6871">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6871">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6871">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |