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+ <B>bascule</B>
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+<PRE>i'm trying to work out why the module for sblive midi doesn't load on boot, it
+loads fine manually after boot
+the following is my /etc/modprobe.d/sound
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bascule at mycroft</A> ~]$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound
+alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
+alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1
+options snd-emu10k1 index=0
+install /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1-synth
+
+alias snd-card-1 snd_via82xx
+alias sound-slot-1 snd_via82xx
+options snd-via82xx index=1
+-------------------
+does anyone have may suggestions why the snd-emu10k1-snth module might not
+load at boot?
+apart from midi sound seems to work fine with all the necessary modules loaded
+automatically
+
+bascule
+--
+He married that Palliard girl, remember? The one with the air-cooled teeth?
+(Lords and Ladies)
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+ <B>Philippe DIDIER</B>
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+<PRE>bascule a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> i'm trying to work out why the module for sblive midi doesn't load on boot, it
+</I>&gt;<i> loads fine manually after boot
+</I>&gt;<i> the following is my /etc/modprobe.d/sound
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bascule at mycroft</A> ~]$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound
+</I>&gt;<i> alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
+</I>&gt;<i> alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1
+</I>&gt;<i> options snd-emu10k1 index=0
+</I>&gt;<i> install /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1-synth
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> alias snd-card-1 snd_via82xx
+</I>&gt;<i> alias sound-slot-1 snd_via82xx
+</I>&gt;<i> options snd-via82xx index=1
+</I>&gt;<i> -------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> does anyone have may suggestions why the snd-emu10k1-snth module might not
+</I>&gt;<i> load at boot?
+</I>&gt;<i> apart from midi sound seems to work fine with all the necessary modules loaded
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> bascule
+</I>just try :
+install snd-emu10k1-synth /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install
+snd-emu10k1-synth
+
+instead of :
+install snd-emu10k1-synth /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1-synth
+
+you may even load automatically your soundfont this way :
+install snd-emu10k1-synth /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install
+snd-emu10k1-synth;/usr/bin/asfxload /etc/midi/8MBGMSCustom.sf2;
+
+(just adapt the path and the name of your soundfont)
+
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Le 2012-03-30 01:33, Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I am planning a trip in the next few months and will need remote access
+</I>&gt;<i> to my desktop with full GUI use. I have been using TeamViewer and
+</I>&gt;<i> getting good results with it. But if my computer reboots while I am
+</I>&gt;<i> away, and if no one is there to re-start my desktop, TeamViewer on linux
+</I>&gt;<i> is not able to auto-start and let me back into my computer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there another way to get the same access? Is it possible to do ssh
+</I>&gt;<i> this way?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+A link to this article[1] just appeared on the site
+<A HREF="http://www.LinuxToday.com">http://www.LinuxToday.com</A> I describes how you can use a piece of
+software called &quot;localtunnel&quot; to access a server on a local network.
+
+Marc
+
+[1]
+<A HREF="http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/hasslefree_reverse_ssh_tunneling_localtunnel">http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/hasslefree_reverse_ssh_tunneling_localtunnel</A>
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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+<PRE>Luc Menut a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 11/03/2012 12:14, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/11 Luc Menut&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't agree. Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; installed, and shouldn't be removed. A kde install without
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> handbooks is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> continue to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; work on handbooks if each distrib don't install its work?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; That's why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; *requires* its handbook (but probably it won't work with LiveCD).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't agree. You seem to first take for granted that a user of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> KDE desktop also uses all the applications and second you mistake
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;good to have&quot; for &quot;must have&quot;. I'm using KDE but only few KDE
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> applications - so why do I need a handbook for kppp or knode or kmail
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when I don't even install these applications?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree, and that's why I said &quot;each component should requires its
+</I>&gt;<i> handbook&quot;, meaning kdebase4-workspace requires
+</I>&gt;<i> kdebase4-workspace-handbooks, kmail requires kmail-handbook, ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Currently, each component suggests its handbook (needed for LiveCD).
+</I>&gt;<i> If we use only suggests for handbooks, the handbooks are missing on
+</I>&gt;<i> DVD iso (because DVD iso doesn't include suggests), so that handbooks
+</I>&gt;<i> are never installed with a DVD install, and all the kde docs will be
+</I>&gt;<i> missing by default.
+</I>&gt;<i> For now, I don't have a perfect solution to this problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> To workaround this, I added a task-kde4-handbooks that REQUIRES the
+</I>&gt;<i> handbooks for kde's components that are installed by a default mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> kde install. I know that it's not perfect.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm open to a better solution, but I really want to avoid that the
+</I>&gt;<i> handbooks are not installed on most of mageia's install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Luc
+</I>A suggestion from a non-kde user.
+Why not put task-kde4-handbooks on the dvd, but not have it required by
+kde ?
+That way, selecting kde (without selecting task-kde4-handbooks) won't
+pull in all handbooks, only those required by the kde packages actually
+installed.
+
+regards
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
+
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+&gt;<i> Luc Menut a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 11/03/2012 12:14, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/11 Luc Menut&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't agree. Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they should be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;installed, and shouldn't be removed. A kde install without handbooks
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will continue
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;work on handbooks if each distrib don't install its work?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;That's why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;*requires* &#160;its handbook (but probably it won't work with LiveCD).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't agree. You seem to first take for granted that a user of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> KDE desktop also uses all the applications and second you mistake
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;good to have&quot; for &quot;must have&quot;. I'm using KDE but only few KDE
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> applications - so why do I need a handbook for kppp or knode or kmail
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> when I don't even install these applications?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I agree, and that's why I said &quot;each component should requires its
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> handbook&quot;, meaning kdebase4-workspace requires kdebase4-workspace-handbooks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kmail requires kmail-handbook, ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Currently, each component suggests its handbook (needed for LiveCD).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If we use only suggests for handbooks, the handbooks are missing on DVD
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> iso (because DVD iso doesn't include suggests), so that handbooks are never
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed with a DVD install, and all the kde docs will be missing by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> default.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For now, I don't have a perfect solution to this problem.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To workaround this, I added a task-kde4-handbooks that REQUIRES the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> handbooks for kde's components that are installed by a default mageia kde
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install. I know that it's not perfect.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm open to a better solution, but I really want to avoid that the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> handbooks are not installed on most of mageia's install.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Luc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A suggestion from a non-kde user.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not put task-kde4-handbooks on the dvd, but not have it required by kde
+</I>&gt;<i> ?
+</I>&gt;<i> That way, selecting kde (without selecting task-kde4-handbooks) won't pull
+</I>&gt;<i> in all handbooks, only those required by the kde packages actually
+</I>&gt;<i> installed.
+</I>
+That's only half the solution. Example: I install kcalc or a simple
+KDE patience game - why do I want to have the handbooks? So, ok, if
+DVD does not include suggests and to avoid letting users pull the
+handbook from the net after system installation, then at least it must
+be possible to uninstall handbooks no matter if the matching
+application is installed or not.
+
+Meaning, without knowing the technical solution: if it is unavoidable
+to get the handbooks installed by dependency I still expect to be able
+to easily uninstall every handbook I want without having to use 'rpm
+-e --nodeps' on each one.
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>bascule</B>
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+<PRE>On Thursday 05 April 2012 07:48:28 Philippe DIDIER wrote:
+&gt;<i> just try :
+</I>&gt;<i> install snd-emu10k1-synth /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install
+</I>&gt;<i> snd-emu10k1-synth
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of :
+</I>&gt;<i> install snd-emu10k1-synth /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1-synth
+</I>
+thanks for replying, sadly this didn't make any difference, i've also tried
+running
+#bootloader-config --action rebuild-initrds
+becasue i read something about rebuilding the initramfs ?
+however i'm not really clued up on the specifics of the mageia boot process.
+anyway, i've now placed a simple
+/sbin/modprobe/ snd-emu10k1-synth
+in rc.local along with a soundfont load line and now i have midi after
+booting!
+
+bascule
+
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