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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Thu Apr 5 17:46:53 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Luc Menut a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 11/03/2012 12:14, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/11 Luc Menut&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't agree. Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; installed, and shouldn't be removed. A kde install without
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> handbooks is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> continue to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; work on handbooks if each distrib don't install its work?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; That's why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; *requires* its handbook (but probably it won't work with LiveCD).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't agree. You seem to first take for granted that a user of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> KDE desktop also uses all the applications and second you mistake
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;good to have&quot; for &quot;must have&quot;. I'm using KDE but only few KDE
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> applications - so why do I need a handbook for kppp or knode or kmail
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when I don't even install these applications?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree, and that's why I said &quot;each component should requires its
+</I>&gt;<i> handbook&quot;, meaning kdebase4-workspace requires
+</I>&gt;<i> kdebase4-workspace-handbooks, kmail requires kmail-handbook, ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Currently, each component suggests its handbook (needed for LiveCD).
+</I>&gt;<i> If we use only suggests for handbooks, the handbooks are missing on
+</I>&gt;<i> DVD iso (because DVD iso doesn't include suggests), so that handbooks
+</I>&gt;<i> are never installed with a DVD install, and all the kde docs will be
+</I>&gt;<i> missing by default.
+</I>&gt;<i> For now, I don't have a perfect solution to this problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> To workaround this, I added a task-kde4-handbooks that REQUIRES the
+</I>&gt;<i> handbooks for kde's components that are installed by a default mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> kde install. I know that it's not perfect.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm open to a better solution, but I really want to avoid that the
+</I>&gt;<i> handbooks are not installed on most of mageia's install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Luc
+</I>A suggestion from a non-kde user.
+Why not put task-kde4-handbooks on the dvd, but not have it required by
+kde ?
+That way, selecting kde (without selecting task-kde4-handbooks) won't
+pull in all handbooks, only those required by the kde packages actually
+installed.
+
+regards
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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