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From memory you can set an +address for an ethernet card with something like; + +ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.22 + +That implicitly brings up the connection. + +This much is already working for you as you say both PCs can reach the +internet. So let's take a step back. I don't want you to "publish" +your PC addresses, but if they are both on the same network then they +should both have addresses in the private network ranges. The most +common on routers are; + +10.?.?.? +192.168.?.? + +If they have some other address range then they are likely to be +publicly accessible and there is no Network Address Translation being +carried out by your router. + +Can you configure your router? Do you know if it has a web-based +configuration address? If you haven't come across this before, this is +a "web page" generated by your router which provides access to its +configuration by means of forms on web pages. It is normally accessed +by entering the address in your browser, but this cannot easily work +if your PC and your router are on different networks, with different +address ranges. For example, the router might be on 192.168.1.1 and +your PC is on a.b.x.x where a and b are NOT 192 and 168. + +Let us take one more step back. When you configured your network on +each computer (using MCC?) did you opt for manual or automatic (via +DHCP) configuration of the network address? That, I think, is the key +starting point. + +If it is manual then you chose the addresses and typed them in. If it +is automatic (via DHCP) then they will have been allocated by EITHER +your router (which seems unlikely given the trouble your having) OR by +your ISP, and that means they are permitting you to have more than one +public address for your location AND that the address really is +public; if I knew your address I could probe your network - that is +potentially highly risky and is why the common practice, in these +parts, is for each subscriber to get one public address and have the +modem/router provide NAT for private networks on the premises. + +I hope I haven't confused the issue. Let me re-state the important questions: +1. Are your PC addresses similar to each other? +2. Are they in the private network range? (10.?.?.? or 192.168.?.?) +3. Do you have the make and model of your router? (yes/no will do for now.) + + +Richard + + + +On 05/03/2012, e-letter <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">inpost at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On 05/03/2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> ------------------------------ +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Message: 4 +</I>>><i> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 22:33:07 +0000 +</I>>><i> From: WALKER RICHARD <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>> +</I>>><i> To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hi, I'm no network expert but I have some practical experience with +</I>>><i> home networks. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The first thing I would do is check the IP addresses on your home +</I>>><i> computers. Did you configure these yourself, or are you getting +</I>>><i> addresses from a DHCP service on your router. The "ifconfig" command +</I>>><i> issued on each machine should hopefully show you both/all machines +</I>>><i> have addresses in the same network; likely possibilities are +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ip addresses were not configured +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> 192.168.0.? +</I>>><i> 192.168.1.? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Only each computer is seen, i.e. 'ifconfig' on computer A shows only +</I>><i> the ip address for computer A and similarly for computer B. Both +</I>><i> computers using mandriva. Both connected to the same netgear broadband +</I>><i> router and both are able to connect to the internet. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> 10.0.0.? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If there is a DHCP service running on the router then the chances are +</I>>><i> high that you can do what you want and perhaps you are being prevented +</I>>><i> by firewalls on the computers themselves. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Using the Mandriva Control Centre go to the Security panel and +</I>>><i> double-click the "Personal firewall" option. While you are having +</I>>><i> "fun" getting the net working it may be a good idea to disable the +</I>>><i> firewalls by ticking the "Everything" box in the "Which services would +</I>>><i> you like to allow the Internet to connect to?" list. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Both disabled and re-enabled; no effect. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Now you can try the nmap command to see what your computer can see. It +</I>>><i> should already be installed but it's no more than a quick "urpmi nmap" +</I>>><i> away. My net is using 192.168.0.? so here is the output I see from +</I>>><i> nmap; +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at Tureen</A> rich]# nmap -sP 192.168.0.* +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Starting Nmap 5.51.6 ( <A HREF="http://nmap.org">http://nmap.org</A> ) at 2012-03-04 22:29 GMT +</I>>><i> Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.101 +</I>>><i> Host is up. +</I>>><i> Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.116 +</I>>><i> Host is up (0.000097s latency). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Similar above visible in command terminal. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> MAC Address: 00:19:DB:4E:A8:61 (Micro-star International CO.) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> no mac visible +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Nmap scan report for gunn (192.168.0.128) +</I>>><i> Host is up (0.00015s latency). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> visible +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> MAC Address: 00:10:4B:C3:BF:8C (3com) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> not visible +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (3 hosts up) scanned in 10.44 seconds +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Aren't there terminal commands available to achieve network functionality? +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006632.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006634.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board application +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6633">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6633">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6633">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6633">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |