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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+<PRE>Since quite some time I have a problem with xemacs on cauldron:
+
+My site initialisation file does a check to detect if xemacs is runs as
+root. As a function of the result, the background is set to one of two
+different colours.
+
+That has worked for something like 30 years on a lots of different
+nixes. Now - and at random, works one time, another time not: the test
+on user-id and the setting of the colour fail. (And: the rest of xemacs
+appears to work as it should).
+
+Has anybody seen a similar problem?
+
+I will try to do some digging into the initialisation file - but would
+like to have some more input. Above all, this random element is intreaguing.
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2012/2/21 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#932;&#961;&#943;&#964;&#951; 21 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 09:39:07 Wolfgang Bornath &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/2/20 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Le 20 f&#233;vr. 2012 18:20, &quot;Wolfgang Bornath&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2012/2/20 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; In Greek there is only one way to pronounce the word mageia (&#956;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945;) =
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; ma y
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; i a , the y like the w in weather, and the accent at the i :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://fr.forvo.com/word/%ce%bc%ce%b1%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%af%ce%b1/">http://fr.forvo.com/word/%ce%bc%ce%b1%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%af%ce%b1/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Yes, that's one of the 3 ways I've been told by native greek speakers :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; wobo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; In greek there is only one pronunciation and not 3 either 2, but only one.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; If someone told you another pronunciation for the word mageia in greek, he
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; is not greek or it is not his native language. It is not even a case that we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; can say for example that in the north of greece they say it in one way and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; in the south of greece in another way. It is a word that its letters cant be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; saying in another way but only in 1 way. If you change one thing of its
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; pronunciation is like if you say the word computer in english : compoter or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; cimputer or campetor... etc, no sense at all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course what you say makes sense. But still I had that experience
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. from a greek Mageia friend at Fosdem 2011 :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. from a greek cook in Berlin
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. from a greek neighbor who imigrated in Germany only 4 months ago.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All 3 are of greek origin, all 3 speak greek as mother tongue. And all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3 told me different pronounciation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But anyhow, I agree to the importance of usage rather than pronouncing it :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe they speaked about another word ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Eg, you show them the word Mageia and they try to say it like another word and not the word magic.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> eg:
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://translate.google.fr/#el%7Cen%7C%CE%BC%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%AC%0A">http://translate.google.fr/#el%7Cen%7C%CE%BC%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%AC%0A</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> May be is this that said a few message above for magia (&#924;&#945;&#947;&#954;&#953;&#940;) with the accent in the last a and the g like the g in ground &#160;but is a word &quot;argot&quot; (used in dialogs between friends etc) it means: cunning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Another way is if you say the word &quot;Witchcraft&quot; in french &quot;Sorcelerie&quot; in greek:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://translate.google.fr/#fr%7Cel%7C%CE%BC%CE%AC%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1%0A">http://translate.google.fr/#fr%7Cel%7C%CE%BC%CE%AC%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1%0A</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> magia (&#924;&#940;&#947;&#953;&#945;)
+</I>&gt;<i> it is in plural , noun ,with the accent in the first a and the g sound like y (young, euro, yellow).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - And another one is the word Magia (&#924;&#945;&#947;&#953;&#940;) with the accent in the last a and the g like y (young, euro, yellow)
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://translate.google.fr/#el%7Cfr%7C%CE%9C%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%AC%0A%0A">http://translate.google.fr/#el%7Cfr%7C%CE%9C%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%AC%0A%0A</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> and it means the yeast , in french the &quot;levure&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe the last one is that he said the greek cooker :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe if we are not used to hear how sounds the greek language we heard every time the same word in a different way but definitively there is only one way to say Mageia (&#924;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945;) in greek.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://translate.google.fr/#en%7Cel%7Cmagic">http://translate.google.fr/#en%7Cel%7Cmagic</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://translate.google.fr/#fr%7Cel%7C%CE%BC%CE%AC%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1%0A">http://translate.google.fr/#fr%7Cel%7C%CE%BC%CE%AC%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1%0A</A>
+</I>
+Yes, may be. As I wrote, it is not so important that it deserves more
+discussions. :)
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>imnotpc a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 02/20/2012 10:22 AM, Oliver Burger wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 20.02.2012 15:53, schrieb imnotpc:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As a native English speaker the 'magic' pronunciation is more
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> natural to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> me, but then again there are a lot of words that are butchered when
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> pronounced using English rules (pretty much anything in French for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> example).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Jeff
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's why it was explicitely said, &quot;pronounce it as you like&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For English speakers it's like in &quot;magic&quot;, for Germans like in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;garden&quot;, for French like the &quot;sh&quot; in &quot;bash&quot; and so on.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Fir the greek (and Mageia is a greek word) it's different again, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know, an English word with a similar pronounciation :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> I really like that. It's a very inclusive, international way of
+</I>&gt;<i> viewing things. Another way Mageia is different from many other projects.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jeff
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Actually, in English &quot;ge&quot; is often pronounced like a soft j, as in
+French, like the second g in garage, or the g in mirage. (Phonetically
+represented by &quot;z&quot;.) (The usual prononciation in canadian English,
+although in the U.S. it would be often/usually? pronounced like a hard j
+or usual soft g, phonetically represented by &quot;dz&quot;)
+So for me, the natural prononciation (in approx. phonetic notation) for
+Mageia in English is &quot;ma-ze-i-a&quot; with the stress on the second syllable
+(much as in French), although it would often be pronounced &quot;ma-dze-i-a&quot;
+in English, similar to the usual prononciation of magic (&quot;ma-dzik&quot;).
+
+Of course, other languages may have other ways of pronouncing Mageia :)
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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+<PRE>Just thought you'd like to know that I was able to get an Encore
+ENUWI-1XN45 USB wireless N adapter dongle working with 32-bit Mageia 1
+with a minimum of fuss. The key was in making sure the non-free
+kernel-firmware-extra package was installed before plugging the dongle
+in. (Fortunately, I had a wired connection so I could do that.) MCC's
+drakconnect set up the connection quickly and easily.
+
+Many thanks to doktor5000 of the Mageia Forum, who patiently held my
+hand even though he probably knew I didn't need it.
+
+I have to wonder though how I'll get the firmware I'll need to make an
+Internet connection when I install Mageia 2 from the DVD if it's not on
+there and I'm not within reach of an Ethernet cable.
+
+TJ
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<I>Juergen Harms
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+<LI><A HREF="006570.html">[Mageia-discuss] wireless success story
+</A><A NAME="6570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
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+<LI><A HREF="006569.html">[Mageia-discuss] Pronunciation
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+<LI><A HREF="006567.html">[Mageia-discuss] xemacs on cauldron
+</A><A NAME="6567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006568.html">[Mageia-discuss] Pronunciation
+</A><A NAME="6568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006569.html">[Mageia-discuss] Pronunciation
+</A><A NAME="6569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006570.html">[Mageia-discuss] wireless success story
+</A><A NAME="6570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="006568.html">[Mageia-discuss] Pronunciation
+</A><A NAME="6568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+
+<LI><A HREF="006569.html">[Mageia-discuss] Pronunciation
+</A><A NAME="6569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006570.html">[Mageia-discuss] wireless success story
+</A><A NAME="6570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006567.html">[Mageia-discuss] xemacs on cauldron
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+<I>Juergen Harms
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+<LI><A HREF="006567.html">[Mageia-discuss] xemacs on cauldron
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+<I>Juergen Harms
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<I>andre999
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+<I>TJ
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