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+<PRE>Op maandag 20 februari 2012 21:43:13 schreef Dimitrios Glentadakis:
+&gt;<i> Le 20 f&#233;vr. 2012 18:20, &quot;Wolfgang Bornath&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; a
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/2/20 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; In Greek there is only one way to pronounce the word mageia (&#956;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945;) =
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ma y
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; i a , the y like the w in weather, and the accent at the i :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://fr.forvo.com/word/%ce%bc%ce%b1%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%af%ce%b1/">http://fr.forvo.com/word/%ce%bc%ce%b1%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%af%ce%b1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, that's one of the 3 ways I've been told by native greek speakers :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In greek there is only one pronunciation and not 3 either 2, but only one.
+</I>&gt;<i> If someone told you another pronunciation for the word mageia in greek, he
+</I>&gt;<i> is not greek or it is not his native language. It is not even a case that
+</I>&gt;<i> we can say for example that in the north of greece they say it in one way
+</I>&gt;<i> and in the south of greece in another way. It is a word that its letters
+</I>&gt;<i> cant be saying in another way but only in 1 way. If you change one thing of
+</I>&gt;<i> its pronunciation is like if you say the word computer in english :
+</I>&gt;<i> compoter or cimputer or campetor... etc, no sense at all
+</I>
+i've heard that ancient greek has a different pronounciation.
+
+and that it's also close to magia (sp?), which someone told me means something
+that i'm not gonna repeat here, but greeks feel proud of... (or so i've been
+told)
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+ <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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+<PRE>Le 21 f&#233;vr. 2012 00:17, &quot;Maarten Vanraes&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten at rmail.be</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op maandag 20 februari 2012 21:43:13 schreef Dimitrios Glentadakis:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 20 f&#233;vr. 2012 18:20, &quot;Wolfgang Bornath&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 2012/2/20 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; In Greek there is only one way to pronounce the word mageia
+</I>(&#956;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945;) =
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ma y
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; i a , the y like the w in weather, and the accent at the i :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://fr.forvo.com/word/%ce%bc%ce%b1%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%af%ce%b1/">http://fr.forvo.com/word/%ce%bc%ce%b1%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%af%ce%b1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Yes, that's one of the 3 ways I've been told by native greek speakers
+</I>:<i>)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; wobo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In greek there is only one pronunciation and not 3 either 2, but only
+</I>one.
+&gt;<i> &gt; If someone told you another pronunciation for the word mageia in greek,
+</I>he
+&gt;<i> &gt; is not greek or it is not his native language. It is not even a case
+</I>that
+&gt;<i> &gt; we can say for example that in the north of greece they say it in one
+</I>way
+&gt;<i> &gt; and in the south of greece in another way. It is a word that its letters
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cant be saying in another way but only in 1 way. If you change one
+</I>thing of
+&gt;<i> &gt; its pronunciation is like if you say the word computer in english :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; compoter or cimputer or campetor... etc, no sense at all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i've heard that ancient greek has a different pronounciation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think that it would be hard to know the excact pronunciaton of the
+ancient greek there is nt any conversation recorded so it is impossible to
+have an answer.
+
+But we dont have to go so far away and we dont need to.
+
+If the question is how is the pronunciation in greek, there is one
+language, one pronunciation.
+
+&gt;<i> and that it's also close to magia (sp?), which someone told me means
+</I>something
+&gt;<i> that i'm not gonna repeat here, but greeks feel proud of... (or so i've
+</I>been
+&gt;<i> told)
+</I>
+What you mean close to magia ?
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+<PRE>2012/2/20 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 20 f&#233;vr. 2012 18:20, &quot;Wolfgang Bornath&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; a
+</I>&gt;<i> &#233;crit&#160;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/2/20 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; In Greek there is only one way to pronounce the word mageia (&#956;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945;) =
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; ma y
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; i a , the y like the w in weather, and the accent at the i :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://fr.forvo.com/word/%ce%bc%ce%b1%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%af%ce%b1/">http://fr.forvo.com/word/%ce%bc%ce%b1%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%af%ce%b1/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, that's one of the 3 ways I've been told by native greek speakers :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In greek there is only one pronunciation and not 3 either 2, but only one.
+</I>&gt;<i> If someone told you another pronunciation for the word mageia in greek, he
+</I>&gt;<i> is not greek or it is not his native language. It is not even a case that we
+</I>&gt;<i> can say for example that in the north of greece they say it in one way and
+</I>&gt;<i> in the south of greece in another way. It is a word that its letters cant be
+</I>&gt;<i> saying in another way but only in 1 way. If you change one thing of its
+</I>&gt;<i> pronunciation is like if you say the word computer in english : compoter or
+</I>&gt;<i> cimputer or campetor... etc, no sense at all
+</I>
+Of course what you say makes sense. But still I had that experience
+1. from a greek Mageia friend at Fosdem 2011 :)
+2. from a greek cook in Berlin
+3. from a greek neighbor who imigrated in Germany only 4 months ago.
+
+All 3 are of greek origin, all 3 speak greek as mother tongue. And all
+3 told me different pronounciation.
+
+But anyhow, I agree to the importance of usage rather than pronouncing it :)
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> 2012/2/20 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 20 f&#233;vr. 2012 18:20, &quot;Wolfgang Bornath&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2012/2/20 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; In Greek there is only one way to pronounce the word mageia (&#956;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945;) =
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; ma y
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; i a , the y like the w in weather, and the accent at the i :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://fr.forvo.com/word/%ce%bc%ce%b1%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%af%ce%b1/">http://fr.forvo.com/word/%ce%bc%ce%b1%ce%b3%ce%b5%ce%af%ce%b1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Yes, that's one of the 3 ways I've been told by native greek speakers :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; wobo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In greek there is only one pronunciation and not 3 either 2, but only one.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If someone told you another pronunciation for the word mageia in greek, he
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is not greek or it is not his native language. It is not even a case that we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can say for example that in the north of greece they say it in one way and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in the south of greece in another way. It is a word that its letters cant be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; saying in another way but only in 1 way. If you change one thing of its
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pronunciation is like if you say the word computer in english : compoter or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cimputer or campetor... etc, no sense at all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course what you say makes sense. But still I had that experience
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. from a greek Mageia friend at Fosdem 2011 :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. from a greek cook in Berlin
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. from a greek neighbor who imigrated in Germany only 4 months ago.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All 3 are of greek origin, all 3 speak greek as mother tongue. And all
+</I>&gt;<i> 3 told me different pronounciation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But anyhow, I agree to the importance of usage rather than pronouncing it :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Maybe they speaked about another word ?
+Eg, you show them the word Mageia and they try to say it like another word and not the word magic.
+
+eg:
+- <A HREF="http://translate.google.fr/#el%7Cen%7C%CE%BC%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%AC%0A">http://translate.google.fr/#el%7Cen%7C%CE%BC%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%AC%0A</A>
+May be is this that said a few message above for magia (&#924;&#945;&#947;&#954;&#953;&#940;) with the accent in the last a and the g like the g in ground but is a word &quot;argot&quot; (used in dialogs between friends etc) it means: cunning.
+
+- Another way is if you say the word &quot;Witchcraft&quot; in french &quot;Sorcelerie&quot; in greek:
+<A HREF="http://translate.google.fr/#fr%7Cel%7C%CE%BC%CE%AC%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1%0A">http://translate.google.fr/#fr%7Cel%7C%CE%BC%CE%AC%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1%0A</A>
+magia (&#924;&#940;&#947;&#953;&#945;)
+it is in plural , noun ,with the accent in the first a and the g sound like y (young, euro, yellow).
+
+- And another one is the word Magia (&#924;&#945;&#947;&#953;&#940;) with the accent in the last a and the g like y (young, euro, yellow)
+<A HREF="http://translate.google.fr/#el%7Cfr%7C%CE%9C%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%AC%0A%0A">http://translate.google.fr/#el%7Cfr%7C%CE%9C%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%AC%0A%0A</A>
+and it means the yeast , in french the &quot;levure&quot;
+
+Maybe the last one is that he said the greek cooker :)
+
+Maybe if we are not used to hear how sounds the greek language we heard every time the same word in a different way but definitively there is only one way to say Mageia (&#924;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945;) in greek.
+<A HREF="http://translate.google.fr/#en%7Cel%7Cmagic">http://translate.google.fr/#en%7Cel%7Cmagic</A>
+<A HREF="http://translate.google.fr/#fr%7Cel%7C%CE%BC%CE%AC%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1%0A">http://translate.google.fr/#fr%7Cel%7C%CE%BC%CE%AC%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1%0A</A>
+
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+As announced on blog, isos are now available on public mirrors.
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+Still no live cds available but we hope to have it ready in coming
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+Beta stage is just essential for final release. So please take some
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