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Are these people +</I>>>>>><i> our target group? If so than - have fun! What strikes me is that you +</I>>>>>><i> of all people are advocating a loosening of security with no real +</I>>>>>><i> reason. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> I do not want to have to give the root password to members of my family that +</I>>>>><i> are, frankly, clueless on tech-matters.  At the same time, I do want them to +</I>>>>><i> apply at least security updates.  Being able to accept updates from a trusted +</I>>>>><i> source (direct from Mageia) with only their user password is the safest their +</I>>>>><i> systems can have. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I understand the reasons. But you know as well as everybody else that +</I>>>><i> sometimes updates do not work as easy as they should. It could be +</I>>>><i> caused by a faulty mirror or by a glitch in a package (which should +</I>>>><i> not happen but "should not happen" implies "can happen") or whatever +</I>>>><i> other reason. Then your family members will wait for you anyway (in +</I>>>><i> the best case) without knowing what happened - while they could have +</I>>>><i> been happily working or entertaining themselves until you come and do +</I>>>><i> the updates. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Apart from the understandable quest to make it easy on the unwashed +</I>>>><i> masses - it is still a security break - see what I have written about +</I>>>><i> the ability of xguest to do updates (while xguest was invented to +</I>>>><i> leave the system without garbage or damage at the end of his/her +</I>>>><i> session). +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> -- +</I>>>><i> wobo +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> A bad update will break your system no matter if you are root or not. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's actually a point in favor of the need for the root password - +</I>><i> if the system breaks: the user can not do anything at all - instead he +</I>><i> will have to go for a walk until root comes to fix the problem. So why +</I>><i> do you insist on letting poor user take that risk by default? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> wobo +</I> +Because a simple update should not break the system. They should work +all the time, just like printers or the Internet connection :p. + +Now, seriously talking, I have installed updates with my user all the +time and never had a problem. This case is an exception and I don't +thing of it as a bug, except for the feature that it can be done by a +guest user. + + + +-- +Diego Bello Carreño +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006445.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007767.html">[Mageia-discuss] A possible risk ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6446">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6446">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6446">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6446">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |