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+ <B>Diego Bello</B>
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+ <I>Wed Feb 8 17:31:37 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Wolfgang Bornath
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/2/8 Anne Wilson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday 08 February 2012 15:13:57 Anne Wilson wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, I have seen postings like &quot;why do I have to use passwords&quot; and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;why can I not log in KDE as root&quot; more than once. Are these people
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> our target group? If so than - have fun! What strikes me is that you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of all people are advocating a loosening of security with no real
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reason.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I do not want to have to give the root password to members of my family that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are, frankly, clueless on tech-matters. &#160;At the same time, I do want them to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> apply at least security updates. &#160;Being able to accept updates from a trusted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> source (direct from Mageia) with only their user password is the safest their
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systems can have.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I understand the reasons. But you know as well as everybody else that
+</I>&gt;<i> sometimes updates do not work as easy as they should. It could be
+</I>&gt;<i> caused by a faulty mirror or by a glitch in a package (which should
+</I>&gt;<i> not happen but &quot;should not happen&quot; implies &quot;can happen&quot;) or whatever
+</I>&gt;<i> other reason. Then your family members will wait for you anyway (in
+</I>&gt;<i> the best case) without knowing what happened - while they could have
+</I>&gt;<i> been happily working or entertaining themselves until you come and do
+</I>&gt;<i> the updates.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apart from the understandable quest to make it easy on the unwashed
+</I>&gt;<i> masses - it is still a security break - see what I have written about
+</I>&gt;<i> the ability of xguest to do updates (while xguest was invented to
+</I>&gt;<i> leave the system without garbage or damage at the end of his/her
+</I>&gt;<i> session).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>
+A bad update will break your system no matter if you are root or not.
+I think normal users should be able to install updates unless you say
+so in the MCC, but I agree that the xguest user should not be able to
+do so. That, imho, is a bug and should be solved.
+
+--
+Diego Bello Carre&#241;o
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