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Is Gnome 2 traditional? What about Gnustep? +</I>>><i> And Cinnamon? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For example, I'd like to see Cinnamon in the next Mageia, not because +</I>>><i> it's traditional or modern, but because it's for me the only reasonable +</I>>><i> compensation for losing Gnome 2. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> > > So, I've answered the poll, but my real answer is the following: if I +</I>>><i> > > had to use a distribution with only 3 qualities out of all these, I +</I>>><i> > > would be an unhappy user. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Looks like you did not read the initial posting where I explain what I +</I>>><i> > mean with "top requirements". Of course I could have allowed for 5 or +</I>>><i> > 10 votes, but my intention is to find out the most important features +</I>>><i> > a distribution must have, otherwise you would not touch it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Well, what I'm saying is that "top requirements" is not how I function, +</I>>><i> and I don't think it's how most users function either. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I mean, I certainly want no crashes (who wants crashes in the middle +</I>>><i> of an editing session?) and I certainly want hardware support (otherwise +</I>>><i> how would I use my computer?), but I also want stability, good support, +</I>>><i> a nice community, a good choice of software, etc. I don't draw a +</I>>><i> hierarchy of these criteria: they are *all* important. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The issue is that they cannot be done all at the same time. +</I> +Yes. That's why polls are made. If you can do everything at the same +time you don't need any polls at all. + +><i> While I appreciate Wobo efforts to get meaningful numbers, I am rather +</I>><i> doubtful about a few things. First, the choice of questions make me +</I>><i> wonder, since my memories tell me that for doing such kind of polls, you +</I>><i> first need to do preliminary research to find the options. +</I> +The questions are a result of reading user's postings for quite some years. + +><i> There is for example various things like : +</I>><i> "networking out of the box", and "good hardware recognition" that are +</I>><i> the same. +</I> +Not at all. Example: my wifi hardware is recognized out of the box but +it is a drag to get it working. + +><i> And LTS go hand to hand with "stable as top priority" ( since LTS mean +</I>><i> the system do not change for a long time, and usually, once enough bugs +</I>><i> are fixed, softwares are rather stable ). +</I> +Not the same. + +><i> Not to mention that a poll may give incorrect expectation to people, and +</I>><i> usually only measure a fraction of the users. +</I> +Yes, same as elections and marketing surveys. + +><i> And more importantly, it doesn't help us on the crucial thing ( IMHO ), +</I>><i> how to expend the contributeurs pool. +</I>><i> I think asking "where would you want to put efforts in the next year for +</I>><i> Mageia" would allow us to better see what kind of priority we should +</I>><i> have to grow the community. ( followed by discussions of "why don't you +</I>><i> do it now" that would help finding potential weak spots in the system ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This or asking directly, "why don't you work on $FOO". Users will come +</I>><i> when we have a great product ( ie, grow naturally up to a point ). And +</I>><i> product will be great with enough contribution, hence the focus on that. +</I> +This was never the goal of this poll. Why don't you start such a poll yourself? + +@ALL: Thx for your opinions though I wish you'd offer these there +where the poll is and not where I merely gave a pointer to the poll. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006369.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006356.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6355">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6355">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6355">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6355">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |