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+ <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Boot loader advice please</H1>
+ <B>blind Pete</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Boot loader advice please">0123peter at gmail.com
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+ <I>Wed Aug 29 10:03:05 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Antoine Pitrou wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:37:54 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne Wilson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 28/08/12 13:12, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Tuesday 28 Aug 2012 07:01 my mailbox was graced by a message
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; from Anne Wilson who wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I'm currently installing M2 as a dual boot onto sdd. When
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; all data is transferred to the new disk, sda, sdb and sdc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; will be removed. I assume that writing the boot loader
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (language fails me, at the moment) to sdd is fine? I know
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it's a very basic question - brain is only half-functioning
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; just now due to external pressures. (sda has the old entry.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Just wanting confirmation that the existence of the old grub
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; won't cause any problems :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Unfortunately, it does cause problems - of course sda is checked
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; before sdd. I assume that I will now need somehow get rid of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; grub on sda - what's the best way to do that? Faint bells are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ringing - about re-ordering disks, but in these days of using
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; disk IDs I'm not sure whether the old ways are still valid, and I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; really don't want to screw things up to the point where recovery
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; is a very big job. I'd appreciate thoughts from a mind that is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; calmer and clearer than mine :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Can you change the boot order in BIOS ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That sounded a good idea. It's so long since I did things like this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that I had forgotten it altogether. However....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I have installed M1 on an EeePC, with MSW on the bult-in HD and M1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; on a SD; just reassigned the HD order and the boot order, and all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; is well, boots from the SD and offers me the choices.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; The only complication is when I change SD to install and try out
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; another OS, I then have to remember to reset the HD and boot order
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; in the BIOS or it directly boots Windows from the HD ;-3(.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia appeared to be starting up, but when it came to logging in, it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> couldn't find the home directories (separate partition).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAIR, on some PCs, changing boot order will also change drive naming
+</I>&gt;<i> (the BIOS really changes the enumeration order of devices).
+</I>&gt;<i> So if you didn't use a &quot;smart&quot; scheme for your /etc/fstab entries, like
+</I>&gt;<i> UUID= or LABEL= mounting, mounting those partitions will fail.
+</I>
+Just to be horribly awkward, installers, boot loaders and operating
+systems can discover things in different orders. This can be much
+worse if you connect and disconnect bits of hardware. There might
+even be spinup delays depending on whether there is a hot boot or
+a cold boot. (Some BIOSes allow for a time delay on some hard drives
+to lessen the startup current.)
+
+Worst case is you have to arrange the hardware then install, but
+if you know which boot sector the BIOS is going to look at you can
+problably sort out fstab and the boot loader after installation.
+
+--
+blind Pete
+Sig goes here...
+
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